Discussion in 'Linux Networking' started by Chris Fowler, Sep 11, 2003.

  1. Chris Fowler

    Chris Fowler Guest

    Does anyone haev a Zaurus 550 and would like to comment on it. I'm
    thinking of buying one with the 802.11b card.
    Chris Fowler, Sep 11, 2003
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  2. I just ordered a 5500 and a CF 802.11b card. I picked the one
    from socket communications -- it draws a lot less current that
    the others I looked at. Hopefully it doesn't adversely affect
    range too much. It should be here in a few days. :)
    Grant Edwards, Sep 11, 2003
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  3. Chris Fowler

    Mauriat Guest

    I have a Zaurus SL-5500 been using it for a few months with a wireless
    card. I have the D-Link DCF-660W 802.11b card. It works perfectly with
    128bit wep and latest Zaurus ROM gives no problem. The once concern I do
    have is that when I use the card it consumes the battery really quickly.
    Mauriat, Sep 11, 2003
  4. Chris Fowler

    ff Guest

    I'm a bit biased since I work for Sharp but I bought my whole group
    their own. We use them all the time. The most amazing thing was seeing
    our web page hosted on one of them. One of my guys put apache on theirs
    and downloaded our external web page onto it. Even across the wireless,
    it was faster than our regular page!

    The battery life is my only concern. If the battery goes completely
    flat, you better hope you have your data backed up.
    ff, Sep 11, 2003
  5. That's one of the reasons I'm considering using one of the ROMs
    that only uses RAM for RAM and not for filesystem. I was a bit
    dissapointed that the 5600 only had half as much RAM as the
    5500. Seems like a step backwards. :/
    Grant Edwards, Sep 11, 2003
  6. No wonder:

    The site is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.

    I'd love to get a Zaurus, played around with one, it's the only really
    interesting PDA, the others are more toys. AFAIK you can run Linux
    on others, but with buying one you pay M$, just to remove their "OS".
    Michael Heiming, Sep 11, 2003
  7. Why do you prefer the Zaurus to the IPaq?
    And what about the Sony Clie?

    I'm interested, as I am thinking of getting one or the other.
    Timothy Murphy, Sep 11, 2003
  8. It has a keyboard and the other reason was mentioned.
    Never heard, does it run Linux (natively)? If I pay M$, just to remove
    their "OS", I won't buy it new, perhaps used...
    Michael Heiming, Sep 11, 2003
  9. Do you mean that you won't buy any computer that has Windows installed?
    That seems to me an absurdly extreme position,
    and means your views on the merits of different computers
    are more or less worthless.
    Timothy Murphy, Sep 11, 2003
  10. Nope, why should I pay for something I won't use. I buy my home desktops
    since ages as spare parts and build them myself. The only way to avoid the
    M$ tax.
    Why? I don't use it, so why should I pay for it? Seems to me logical.
    LOL...There are a bunch of other OS & architectures, I'm using.
    The world isn't only M$, nor have their "OS" any meaning if we
    talk about mission critical systems.
    Michael Heiming, Sep 11, 2003
  11. Chris Fowler

    Bob Wiegand Guest

    The Clie is a Palm OS machine.
    Bob Wiegand, Sep 11, 2003
  12. It's perfectly possible to be logical AND extreme.
    I'm not arguing the merit of your position --
    just that someone with your views
    is not really in a position to advise people on choice of computer,
    since the vast majority of users do not share your beliefs.

    Personally, my first step on acquiring a computer
    is to shrink the Windows partition as much as possible
    (5GB is my current ration.)
    There are several reasons for keeping a Windows partition.
    It is sometimes required for configuring or upgrading firmware.
    If you have children, there are many games that do not run under Linux.
    It is often useful to work out the correct configuration of devices
    under Linux, eg by determining correct IRQ or IO ports.
    It is useful as a check on hardware if something goes wrong under Linux.

    I wouldn't purchase Windows if I didn't have it;
    on the other hand, if I did have it I wouldn't throw it away.
    Timothy Murphy, Sep 11, 2003
  13. [Speaking for myself and not M.r Heiming]

    *** The Zaurus ships with Linux. ***

    1) I like to reward that sort of corporate behavior.

    2) I don't want to buy a copy of Windows.
    Which one? None of them run Linux. I've been using PalmOS
    devices for about 6 years now. In the past, I've not been very
    happy with the selection of PalmOS apps, and there's little I
    can do about it: since almost none of them are open-source, I
    can't fix bugs or add features I need.

    The selection of Linux apps is far wider (and I'm in a much
    better position to do development for a Linux platform).
    Grant Edwards, Sep 11, 2003
  14. Nope. Not if there's a viable alternative.

    So far there always has been. :)
    Then don't use that as a criteria when you buy a computer.
    As are the views of anybody who's criterea don't match yours.
    Grant Edwards, Sep 11, 2003
  15. If you look around, there are plenty of vendors who sell
    comptuers w/o Windows. I've been buying PCs (desktop and
    laptop) either w/o OS or with only Linux pre-installed on them
    for 6-7 years now.
    Blasphemer!! ;)
    Grant Edwards, Sep 11, 2003
  16. If they want MS-Windows (or at least don't mind paying for it),
    then no, my criteria for choosing a computer won't serve them
    That is evidently not true.

    Before you bought the computer, you didn't have Windows. After
    your purchase you did have windows.

    Therefore: You didn't have windows, and you purchased it.

    You don't think Bill built that house by giving away copies of
    MS-Windows, do you?
    I would, and I have. Life became much less frustrating. :)
    Grant Edwards, Sep 11, 2003
  17. Chris Fowler

    Bob Wiegand Guest

    If you want good advice don't go to an average user, go to an
    expert. The experts often have opinions that are different than
    what the average users think.
    Bob Wiegand, Sep 11, 2003
  18. Chris Fowler

    Chris Guest

    I have owned a Zaurus SL-5500 for probably close to a year, I really
    like using it. I haven't used any other PDAs and I don't have a
    wireless card in it. But it is a good product, I should probably
    update the ROM.
    Chris, Sep 11, 2003
  19. Thx, have a PALM flying around, but I use it very seldom
    the OS is just to unstable, Whenever you try some sw out,
    that it doesn't like it just crashing, unusable.
    Michael Heiming, Sep 11, 2003
  20. If you want advise running windows, use another ng, if you try
    looking hard, the name of this ng is:


    Strange that some has to "defend" his usage of Linux here...
    Some old DOS boot disks does just fine and there are more
    and more companies, where you get tools for updating firmware
    while running Linux, Ie. Adaptec.
    I do and there is no windows, most games run just fine using wine.
    Nope, can be done from Linux much easier.
    It came with your box, thanks to mafia OEM contracts.
    Michael Heiming, Sep 11, 2003
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