wireless routers are crap in my house

Discussion in 'Wireless Internet' started by sdowney717, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. sdowney717

    sdowney717 Guest

    I bought a Gateway 802.11 G and It is so pathetically weak signal.
    I live in a conventional house with sheetrock and wood studs.
    I have the wireless router in one end of the house, 50 feet away in a
    straight line is the reciever end.
    I sometimes can connect at 50% signal strength with 24mps
    Half the time I can not connect at all due to poor strength like 33% to
    45%.
    Everytime someone wants to try to use it, I have to move it around try
    different things always very uncertain if it will connect or even stay
    connected. The thing that gets me is there are about 4 or 5 other
    networks in the list and sometimes my own wireless router signal
    strength is even less that these others which are in houses who knows
    where. If anyone ever wants to know about a wireless network I tell
    them its lousy and maybe it will work for them but most likely wont.
    This has been a real dissapointment to me.
     
    sdowney717, Mar 26, 2006
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  2. sdowney717

    optikl Guest

    Have you tried experimenting with different channels. Finding the right
    channel solved my problem.
     
    optikl, Mar 26, 2006
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  3. hath wroth:
    - How many walls are you trying to go through?
    - Is there any foil backed insulation in the walls.
    - Any chances of interference? Try a different channel (1, 6, 11).
    - What model Gateway 802.11g? Latest drivers? If laptop, have you
    tried it at a wireless hot spot or other open access point to check
    the range?
    - Where are the 4 or 5 other wireless routers? If you're shooting
    through a window directly to one of these, you'll get much better
    signal than trying to drill through a few walls.
    - Can you borrow a different model wireless router and see if it works
    any better?
     
    Jeff Liebermann, Mar 26, 2006
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  4. sdowney717

    sdowney717 Guest

    2 or maybe 3 walls with no insulation or foil
    My router is at the end of the hallway. Her computer is in a bedroom
    and is offset from straightline hallway by 7 feet.
    I have played around with different channels no help there. Which
    channel is best?

    The router is model WGR-250
    the reciever is a Gateway wireless usb adapter model WGU-210
    I would not really want to buy different equiptment, they are both
    802.11g standard. why are some stronger signals and some weaker?
     
    sdowney717, Mar 27, 2006
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  5. hath wroth:
    My rule of thumb is:
    1 wall - no problem
    2 walls - iffy but can be made to work.
    3 walls - unreliable.

    The problem is that you'll probably get a connection through 3 walls,
    but you won't be able to stay connected. As things move around the
    house, so will the signal level.
    Can you move the computer into the doorway for a quick test?

    Incidentally, your initial description seems a bit different:
    "I have the wireless router in one end of the house, 50 feet
    away in a straight line is the reciever end."
    A 7ft offset is NOT a straight line.
    There is no "best" channel. Channel 6 is most common because it's in
    the middle of the band. The bandwidth limited devices (filters,
    antennas, etc) tend to work better in mid band. The non-overlapping
    channels are 1, 6, and 11. Use one of those. The idea is to find a
    channel that has the least amount of inteference from other users.
    Otherwise, all the channels are equal.
    I couldn't find any reviews that included any kind of performance
    tests.
    Wireless USB is not known for spectacular range. The WGU-210 at least
    has a decent built in "flip up" antenna.
    http://support.gateway.com/s/NETWORK/7004807/7004807nv.shtml

    The problem is that I can't tell exactly where you're having a range
    problem. If the computer is portable, try walking down the hallway
    while monitoring the signal strength. I think you'll find a very
    abrupt drop when you turn the corner in the doorway. I've seen this
    in many building. RF just does not like turning corners (or going
    through additional walls). With 2-3 walls, the number of walls may be
    the problem.

    Before doing anything, I suggest you invite someone over with a known
    working wireless laptop and run a comparison test. If it does the
    same thing, it's not the client end. Also, if possible, borrow a
    different access point and see if it makes a difference. In other
    words, troubleshoot this by substitution.

    Also, make sure you have the latest firmware for the wireless router
    and the latest drivers for the client radio.
    Sigh. The general answer is differences in construction, antennas,
    chipsets, and quality control. Things like processor noise trashing
    the receive sensitivity are impossible for users to detect. Variations
    in antenna construction make a huge difference. From what I've seen
    (several years ago), the transmitters are all roughly with a few dB of
    specified output, but the receivers are all over the place.
     
    Jeff Liebermann, Mar 27, 2006
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  6. On 27 Mar 2006 11:45:57 -0800, in alt.internet.wireless ,
    Material? Mine are "breeze" which has a high iron content -> can't
    recieve wireles 30ft away horizontally, works fine 30ft vertically....
    Does it work if you stick the computer's USB adapter in the doorway,
    or out in the hall? Experiment with different locations, see if you
    can find somewhere it *does* work.
    If you want it to work, then given your geometry, you may need to.
    All sorts of reasons.
    Mark McIntyre
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    Mark McIntyre, Mar 27, 2006
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  7. sdowney717

    __spc__ Guest

    [snip]

    Try re-orienting the antennae on the router, and at the receiver end, e.g.
    if a laptop, try it facing a different direction.
     
    __spc__, Mar 30, 2006
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