Wireless internet goes walkabout

Discussion in 'Wireless Internet' started by Kurt Ullman, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. Kurt Ullman

    Kurt Ullman Guest

    I am using ATT DSL through the ATT wifi/modem combination at a condo I
    am renting. Quite often when I am using the Internet the browser makes
    contact and indicates that the site is about 1/2 downloaded and then
    stops. It doesn't pick back up again and complete the download.
    Sometimes I need to resend the address 2-3 times before it finally
    takes. No particular website as I have had it happen with Facebook,
    Yahoo, my home page at earthlink.net, racer.com and others. I have
    problems believing that all are that busy.
    Happens across browsers (Safari, Firefox, Sea Monkey), and across
    different things (my MacBook Pro, iPhones and iPads) and even when a
    brower isn't directly involved such as when I check the temperature on
    the furnace app at home or my wife uses her slot machine app. I also
    plugged the MBP directly in through the Ethernet connection with the
    same behaviors.
    I have unplugged and plugged back in the wifi, which pretty much
    exhausts my skills in this area. Any other suggestions?
     
    Kurt Ullman, Jan 29, 2014
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    ps56k Guest

    If you are seeing the same thing happen with a direct Ethernet connection to
    the DSL modem/router,
    then it pretty much rules out the WiFi aspect.

    You might try running something like PingPlotter to see when things get
    weird.
    I have left it running on a connected laptop continuously with 2.5s Pings.

    I have seen the Pings run fine - but the ATT Domain Servers serving slowly,
    so anytime a DNS lookup happens - things just stop -
     
    ps56k, Jan 30, 2014
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    miso Guest

    Is there some reason you have to use the AT&T DNS? I use the openDNS. The
    fastest DNS is usually google, but then again, that means the google 'bot is
    spying on you. If you want to geek out, there is a program that flogs all
    the free DNS and finds the fastest for your location.

    https://www.grc.com/dns/Benchmark.htm

    The openDNS unfortunately goes into a search mode if the address is not
    found. I rather it just 404. but it doesn't get too obnoxious.

    Apple products are well known for wifi deafness. Do iphones and ipads
    support an ethernet driver over usb like the rest of the industry? If so,
    you could rule out the processor and basically blame it on the wifi. You do
    need to insure you don't have your device in the mode where the usb port
    looks like a usb drive.
     
    miso, Jan 30, 2014
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  4. Kurt Ullman

    Kurt Ullman Guest

    Is there some reason you have to use the AT&T DNS? I use the openDNS. The
    fastest DNS is usually google, but then again, that means the google 'bot is
    spying on you. If you want to geek out, there is a program that flogs all
    the free DNS and finds the fastest for your location.[/QUOTE]

    Basically this is a rental (otherwise I wouldn't be 100 miles of
    either DSL or ATT) and I don't want to mess with things too much for a
    few weeks. It is very annoying, but that is all at this point.
    Don't know right off since I don't need them elsewhere.
    However, if they do I don't have the connector and it isn't worth the
    money for a few weeks.
     
    Kurt Ullman, Jan 30, 2014
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  5. Is the AT&T modem/wi-fi/router box a Motorola NVG510? Is so, the
    problem you describe is caused by a broken DNS relay client in the
    router section. There are also other problems.
    <http://www.ron-berman.com/2011/11/24/motorola-nvg510-help-page-for-att-u-verse-users/>
    The problem has been around for at least a year, probably more, during
    which time AT&T has ignored it. In my opinion, there's probably
    nothing wrong with the router hardware, just the stock AT&T
    configuration. If it were your router, I can offer some suggestions,
    but since it's a rental you're stuck.
     
    Jeff Liebermann, Jan 30, 2014
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  6. Kurt Ullman

    Kurt Ullman Guest

    It says 5031NV.

    I
     
    Kurt Ullman, Jan 30, 2014
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    Char Jackson Guest

    Why "stuck"? Why not just use another DNS?

    I haven't been following closely, so I assume I missed something.
     
    Char Jackson, Jan 30, 2014
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  8. That's a different box, made by 2-Wire (Pace), not Motorola.
     
    Jeff Liebermann, Jan 30, 2014
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  9. The DNS relay features is broken in the NVG510. You can either fix it
    by hacking the router, or setting all your PC's to bypass the relay
    server in the router, go directly to the ISP's DNS server, or point it
    at one of the public DNS servers (OpenDNS, Google, etc). Please read
    the above URL for details.
     
    Jeff Liebermann, Jan 30, 2014
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    Char Jackson Guest

    Thanks, but you've already answered my question. The OP wouldn't be stuck at
    all. There are several very viable options available.
     
    Char Jackson, Jan 31, 2014
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  11. There are other problems, but they're minor. The good news is that
    unlike many other router/switch/wi-fi conglomerated products, the
    Motorola NVG510 doesn't seem to hang or lock up. The bad news is that
    there seem to be other minor problems that have to do with
    configuration. For example, I'm having problems staying connected
    with several iPad 2 tablets. The iPad 3 and various iPhones work
    fine, just the iPad 2. There were a bunch of other mior oddities that
    I can't seem to recall right now. It would be nice if the NVG510
    router section could be disabled and the device used only as a DSL
    modem and wi-fi bridge, but that requires jailbreaking the modem. In
    my never humble opinion, it's easier to just get a DSL modem (from
    AT&T) and be done with it.
     
    Jeff Liebermann, Jan 31, 2014
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    l Guest

    Get rid of ATT, they are spies.

    --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
     
    l, Jan 31, 2014
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    miso Guest

    I'm using an AT&T branded 2wire dsl modem/router, though I am not on AT&T. I
    just DMZ it into a DD-WRT router.

    I'd love to get a DSL modem where it was totally dumb and used open source
    firmware. That doesn't seem to be in the cards.

    I still have my Telocity DSL modem stashed away somewhere.
     
    miso, Jan 31, 2014
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