What's involved in installing cable?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Deux, Jan 7, 2012.

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    Deux Guest

    I've ordered cable from Virgin Media. To the best of my knowledge the
    previous occupants had cable so the cabling should all be there so
    hopefully there won't be any digging up the garden.

    I have no idea where it enters my house though, will it connect through
    the same place as my BT phone line or somewhere else?

    Will Virgin give me a free cable router as part of the installation?
    Does the engineer do any sort of set up on my computer?
    Deux, Jan 7, 2012
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    Roger Mills Guest

    I've absolutely no idea - but nor would I have placed an order before
    getting answers to these questions!
    Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom
    Roger Mills, Jan 7, 2012
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    Andy Burns Guest

    From wandering around cabled areas, any "digging" that Virgin do seems
    to be limited to a depth of about 2" to conceal the cable, alternatively
    they stuff it into cracks in the pavement, or just leave it exposed ...
    Andy Burns, Jan 7, 2012
  4. wherever it comes in..its quite separate.

    IIRC a modem only used to be the order of the day but that may have changed

    The Natural Philosopher, Jan 7, 2012
  5. The termination box inside your house will have an F connector, like a
    satellite cable connector. If you've got one of those, then that's where
    the modem will have to be connected. It has nothing to do with your BT
    line so needn't be anywhere near it.
    You'll probable get a "Superhub", which is a cable modem and wireless
    router in the same box. Make sure the engineer fits a long enough cable to
    allow a reasonable amount of freedom to position it for best wireless
    reception. He shouldn't touch your computer at all. The wireless
    connection details are printed on the label on the back of the Superhub,
    though the default settings are not ideal for all devices, so make sure
    you have an ethernet cable to make a direct connection to change them.

    Roderick Stewart, Jan 7, 2012
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    Deux Guest

    Good for you. I don't really mind what Virgin need to do which is why I
    already placed an order, I just need to know what sort of preparation I
    should do before the engineer arrives.

    As long as the engineer doesn't take a shit in the sink whilst he's here
    I can be rather flexible in order to get 10x faster broadband.
    Deux, Jan 8, 2012
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    Graham. Guest

    There is usually a plastic connection box on the front wall of the
    house. Is there a cellar? sometimes the box is there. The actual cable
    from the street is of shotgun cross-section with one "bore" wider than
    the other; it's quite distinctive.
    Graham., Jan 8, 2012
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    Woody Guest

    I know this will be unpopular, but I must spring to the defence
    of VM. In the main they are not responsible for the existing
    cable infrastructure, that was installed many moons ago by the
    area cable providers even before they started getting taken over
    and eventually ending in either the NTL or Telewest pots. Agreed
    contractors for VM do install new feeds from exiting
    infrastructure to buildings that want to come 'on line' such as
    the OP but its only the last bit from the pavement to the house,
    the main trunking already being in place.

    There has been no expansion to the existing cable infrastructure
    for some years now - and I'm talking for getting on for the
    better part of a decade.
    Woody, Jan 8, 2012
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    David Guest

    "Woody" wrote in message ....

    There has been no expansion to the existing cable infrastructure
    for some years now - and I'm talking for getting on for the
    better part of a decade.

    I thought that they had to provide access to every home when the permission
    to be a cable supplier given, I think the number and areas may well have
    been like the original ITV regions.
    Did the Government not write the agreements correctly?
    Is it Ofcom being weak again?
    You can see streets that have had houses built after the original cable
    layers have been and can't get connected. Ends up now with half a street
    can and half can't. This is in Cities, and I suppose rural people loose
    out completely.
    David, Jan 8, 2012
  10. I live in an unadopted road and apparently this makes it impossible for cable
    companies to supply services without getting every householder to sign a legal
    form. Despite several changes of ownership of the cable companies since cable
    became available in my area, nobody has made any effort to achieve this.

    Many years ago when it all started, some of us received visits from sales
    reps, initially expressed an interest and even signed up for a trial period,
    only to get a letter a few weeks later informing us that they couldn't supply
    the services for the aforementioned reason. Since then, all the cable
    companies have regularly sent leaflets trying to persuade us how wonderful the
    services are, but nobody has come round trying to persuade anyone to sign the
    necessary forms.

    Currently I have a good 10Mb/s ADSL service, so unless someone can offer me
    something which is either better or cheaper than what I've got, and at least
    as reliable, I have no reason to want to change. As long as the companies that
    provide such services are only driven by commercial obligations rather than
    legal ones, I don't suppose they'll make any effort to change either.

    Roderick Stewart, Jan 8, 2012
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    Andy Champ Guest

    That means nothing. They leaflet our road as well when the nearest
    cable service is 400 yards away on the other side of the main road.
    We're unadopted, so it isn't that. In fact there are cable ducts here
    for the "communal aerial" system that I think they own. Only think
    mind, it doesn't work any more.

    Andy Champ, Jan 8, 2012
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    Ghostrecon Guest

    umm they have just put in the infrastructure formy mothers estate (couple
    of months ago)
    Ghostrecon, Jan 8, 2012
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    Graham. Guest

    What part of the country is that?
    Graham., Jan 8, 2012
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    Davey Guest

    As far as I know, there are no plans for anything in my part of the
    country. Even BT Infinity is an infinite time in the future.
    Davey, Jan 8, 2012
  15. Yep - unless you live in a reasonably large town or city (or suburb
    thereof) there doesn't appear to be any light at the end of the tunnel
    for either cable or fibre.
    If you live out in the sticks, as I do, you have to accept that you'll
    get second - or third - rate services.
    I'm quite happy to "enjoy" a 3 Meg ADSL connection, no mains gas and
    frequent power cuts for the tranquillity and low crime rate.
    George Weston, Jan 8, 2012
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    Ghostrecon Guest

    Sandy Bedfordshire
    Ghostrecon, Jan 8, 2012
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    Graham. Guest

    Graham., Jan 8, 2012
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    Woody Guest

    Could likely be because the developers have a bit of nouse and
    have paid VM to install it?
    Woody, Jan 9, 2012
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    BC Guest

    Check here: http://tinyurl.com/82y99rc
    BC, Jan 9, 2012
  20. The form is apparently called a "Wayleave", and as I understand it gives
    permission to the cable company to dig up the road (because it belongs to us, not
    the council) so that they can install ducting along the road to provide services
    to whoever wants them. Every householder in the road has to sign this. Individual
    branches to households requesting the services would then only involve land
    belonging to the particular household, so wouldn't require the whole road to sign
    anything. If your road already has the necessary ducting and you didn't sign any
    form, then it must have been signed by a previous owner. Getting a cable through
    ducting that is already present shouldn't require permission from anyone other
    than you, and if there isn't already a route across the main road, any
    arrangements to provide one would be between the cable company and the council, so
    no more legalities required than to dig up any other road.

    Roderick Stewart, Jan 9, 2012
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