Those green boxes on the corners

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by David Hume, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. David Hume

    Bill Ward Guest

    One near us looks as though it is in the car park of a block of flats.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 11, 2015
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  2. If they're not allowed to, they're not allowed to. I suppose an
    approximate location followed by exploration with Google Street View
    is better than nothing.

    Rod.
     
    Roderick Stewart, Nov 12, 2015
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  3. David Hume

    Mr Guest Guest

    Woody wrote (apparently) in uk.telecom.broadband on Wed 11 Nov 2015 16:27:12:
    Mine is called Exchange 14, I will dream of FTTC then. May be time to
    reconsider my package on VM.
     
    Mr Guest, Nov 15, 2015
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  4. David Hume

    Bill Ward Guest

    One local one had NMB JZW stenciled on it the rest had nothing.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 15, 2015
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  5. David Hume

    Woody Guest

    [snip]
    Exchange 14 suggests that your line does not go through a cab but is
    direct from the exchange. If so you may have problems with FTTC as it
    doesn't exist for direct exchange lines as has been discussed recently
    in this group.

    Like VM and their prices or not it may still be the only option to get
    anything above 17MB (i.e. ADSL2.)

    You could always have a go at Retentions and see if they will
    negotiate if you are going to leave to go to, say, Sky.
     
    Woody, Nov 15, 2015
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  6. David Hume

    David Hume Guest

    I thought exchanges had names. Well, the few that I have looked at
    do. But right outside my local exchange there is a green box. What's the
    point of that?
     
    David Hume, Nov 16, 2015
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  7. David Hume

    Mr Guest Guest

    Woody wrote (apparently) in uk.telecom.broadband on Sun 15 Nov 2015 23:25:23:
    Indeed, that was my plan. I do appear to get 20.99 Mbit on ADSL though, when
    it's not pi**ed wet through like in the last couple of days.

    I also need to get a Tivo box as have been on V+ HD for a while. It has done
    what I wanted but am aware that better is available. As a new customer could
    get the 200Mbit connection but not as an existing customer apparently, think
    that is my tack on this.

    All good fun.

    Have looked for the cabinets, but seems they are simply exchange ones out to
    where I live. Sadly I moved from where the fibre has gone, so hopefully VM
    can give me better. Will still have a strategic backup though, these posts
    come through my ADSL connection as VM appear to have deep packet inspection
    on Usenet ports and manically throttle them at certain times.
     
    Mr Guest, Nov 17, 2015
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  8. Are you being deliberately obtuse? Exchange 14 probably refers to the
    rack number inside the exchange that your line connects to. Those racks
    are called "frames" in BT-speak.
    It's Openreach's box. Why don't you ask them and see how far you get?

    At my local exchange, Openreach are installing cabinets in the street
    outside the exchange - both standard and FTTC - and migrating the
    direct-to-exchange lines to those so that they can offer FTTC to those
    customers.
     
    Mike Tomlinson, Nov 17, 2015
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  9. David Hume

    Woody Guest

    Indeed it does but the important word is 'Exchange' which means it is
    a direct cable that does not go through a street cab. If you look on
    the Openreach data any line that is affiliated with 'Exchange' will
    not have fibre capability.
     
    Woody, Nov 17, 2015
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  10. David Hume

    Woody Guest

    I am curious as to why you have ADSL for broadband when you have VM
    cable feeding TV, or is this historic? If you get cable broadband it
    will be 50Mb for starters and they are offering a (chargeable) upgrade
    to 70Mb at the moment - although the actual cost is subject to survey.

    In terms of UG, you may get throttling if you are using VM newsgroup
    feeds; I went over to using Eternal September some time ago and never
    seem to have any problems save when every child in the country is on
    the system between about 16h and 20h. Go on in the morning or late
    evening and it is lightning fast.
     
    Woody, Nov 17, 2015
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  11. That's what I said. Read my post again. The OP's line terminates on a
    frame in the exchange, not in a street cabinet, hence it is called an
    exchange line = terminates in the exchange.
     
    Mike Tomlinson, Nov 17, 2015
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  12. David Hume

    Woody Guest

    That is what I was saying Mike. By definition if a cable terminates in
    the exchange it cannot have FTTC as it does not go to a cab. That is
    why BT (stupidly in my opinion) are re-presenting exchange terminated
    lines at a cab outside the exchange so that they can have FTTC. I can
    only think it is to do with security or safety - we know already that
    the FTTC cabs are separate from line cabs as the techs who work on
    line cabs are not authorised/trained to work on or in cabinets with
    mains powered equipments.
     
    Woody, Nov 17, 2015
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  13. David Hume

    David Hume Guest

    What? How the hell am I supposed to know that. I am not a BT engineer.
     
    David Hume, Nov 17, 2015
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  14. David Hume

    Mr Guest Guest

    Woody wrote (apparently) in uk.telecom.broadband on Tue 17 Nov 2015 08:36:27:
    The ADSL was for work as I have a couple of MicroServers here that were
    backing up the work server several times a day. I've kept it on as for the
    price it's offering me a nice level of resilience through my DrayTek router.

    Use NIN instead of VM for Usenet and works well on either connection, not
    using anything other than text groups. VM on port 119 is utterly unreliable,
    but NIN does not need to stay on that port.
     
    Mr Guest, Nov 17, 2015
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  15. David Hume

    Mr Guest Guest

    Woody wrote (apparently) in uk.telecom.broadband on Tue 17 Nov 2015 11:00:32:
    There are cabinets lurking between me and the exchange but they are
    presumably passive and link the exchange cabling to the dropwire from the
    telegraph pole just along the road. Looking on the MagSys website at where
    they are this seems to be the case for this exchange (MYKNA).

    All good fun, I need to find out whether the dampness affecting it is my side
    or not. Just need a fine dry day when I am here in daylight hours, so that's
    a few weeks off.
     
    Mr Guest, Nov 18, 2015
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  16. David Hume

    Invalid Guest

    I was told in a discussion about the arrival of Fibre in our rural
    village that in fact the fibre does not go to the local exchange at
    all, but that the Green Cabinets are (daisy chain?) linked down a fibre
    backbone run from a major network node.

    Not sure if the description was valid, but it would explain the
    appearance of FTTC cabs outside exchanges.
     
    Invalid, Nov 18, 2015
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    Phil W Lee Guest

    That fits what I discovered about our local network topology - partly
    from when we were waiting for it to be installed, and then by how much
    disappeared when some moron with a JCB cut a gap in it.
     
    Phil W Lee, Nov 19, 2015
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