Those green boxes on the corners

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by David Hume, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. David Hume

    David Hume Guest

    That is what I am curious about now, the history. I am not sure why,
    probably I am coming down with a touch of asperges syndrome. But the
    house that I live in is about 25 years old, whereas that church I would
    guess is older. (It's a modern church). From what I have read I cannot
    easily have fiber optic because my line goes to the exchange. But I see
    green boxes on my way when I walk to the exchange. Some green boxes are
    different from others. I looked to see if I could see a number on one,
    but it just said "Siemens". Other green boxes have "fiber is coming
    here" or something like that. Some of these green boxes must be old I
    think, they would predate fiber optics, or the Internet?

    I tried guessing local telephone numbers on the dsl checker
    web-site. Many give no results because they have been transferred over to
    Virgin Media. But some work, and show they are connected to cabinets.

    All this is just curiosity. My broadband is about 6Mbs but I am not
    bothered about paying more.
     
    David Hume, Nov 4, 2015
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    Tim+ Guest

    The FTTC cabinets have lightning symbols on them as they have mains
    voltages inside (unlike ordinary phone junction boxes). They can often be
    heard making faint whirring noises as they have cooling fans. They tend to
    be bigger than regular junction boxes.

    Not sure that identifying FTTC boxes will help you though.

    Tim
     
    Tim+, Nov 4, 2015
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    Rodney Pont Guest

    What you could do is get your neighbour to go to an isp that allows
    connection sharing (AAISP is one) and get a high speed connection and
    split the costs.
     
    Rodney Pont, Nov 5, 2015
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    Roland Perry Guest

    That limit was nothing to do with the wiring - it was the best that
    contemporary electronics could manage. On the plus side, you could have
    a data connection at that speed to a modem the other end of the country.
    A large part of which is achieved by moving the 'distant' modem to your
    telephone exchange.
     
    Roland Perry, Nov 5, 2015
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    Woody Guest

    There might be legal aspects of that in the rights that BT have in
    terms of delivery location. ISTR for instance that you cannot take
    your own landline across a road although I know that doesn't apply in
    this instance. We had that with a college a few years ago and the only
    solution was to link the two halves of the telephone system with a
    short hop microwave link - dramtically cheaper (including a
    maintenance contract) than letting BT do it by lines and charge for
    same!
     
    Woody, Nov 5, 2015
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    Rodney Pont Guest

    I really should make a habit of looking at who the poster is before
    replying :)
     
    Rodney Pont, Nov 5, 2015
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    Andy Burns Guest

    Bearing in mind Snoopers' Charter Mk II, do you want logs of your online
    activity intermingled with those of a neighbour?
     
    Andy Burns, Nov 5, 2015
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  8. Lots of other people have installed roadside boxes - near us we have: -

    Very large (1.5mhX2mx.3m) green cabinet with 3 doors, fans and smells of gas. Originally installed by Nynex, now presumably Virgin.

    Small unpainted cabinets - either traffic control or originally installed by Cable & Wireless with unknown owners now.

    Largish grey cabinets next to cell phone masts - various GSM & 3G operators.

    It might allow him to order another line, which would be provisioned from it.
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Nov 5, 2015
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  9. Might that give you what I think they call "plausible deniability"?

    Rod.
     
    Roderick Stewart, Nov 5, 2015
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    Bill Ward Guest

    I tried Google Earth today and found my one in a different place from
    how it looked on the original map.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 5, 2015
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    Phil W Lee Guest

    Not would - might.
    If there is a spare pair on the cable he already has, they would just
    use that, and he'd be out an installation charge and year contract for
    no gain.
     
    Phil W Lee, Nov 5, 2015
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    Phil W Lee Guest

    I had to deal with a similar issue linking two office buildings in
    London a few years ago. When searching for alternatives to what was
    there (an utterly dire laser link with something like a 70% uptime), I
    was able to establish that if no road needs to be crossed, and any
    land that is crossed is done by permission of the landowner, there is
    no legal barrier to installing your own physical connection..
     
    Phil W Lee, Nov 5, 2015
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    Bill Ward Guest

    This one looked about 200 yards away in front of me but is actually
    about 400 yards out of sight in the other direction.
    I knew that one was there but did not take it to be it.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 6, 2015
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    Bill Ward Guest

    This one looked about 200 yards away in front of me but is actually
    about 400 yards out of sight in the other direction.
    I knew that one was there but did not take it to be it.
    Bill.
    Now that I notice them I am surprised by how many there are.
    If I turn left from 'my one' there are two more about 200 yards away.
    If I go straight on towards the town centre there are two on either side
    of the street about another 250 yards away.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 11, 2015
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    Woody Guest

    I have had much difficulty finding my cab until I came across
    something the other day.

    Go to www.magsys.co.uk and select Code look-up, then enter your phone
    number. When it shows your exchange click on it, then on the hyperlink
    in the top right corner of the yellow box - something like All ??
    fibre cabinets. A map will pop up with all the cabs shown - hold you
    mouse over any one and it will show its number.

    Having now found where my cab is I went looking for it and found it
    round a corner about 100yds from the indicated point. Well, at least I
    found it! The fibre cab is on the opposite side of the road!
     
    Woody, Nov 11, 2015
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    Tim+ Guest

    Not too impressed. Seems very inaccurate regarding actual cabinet
    positions.

    Tim
     
    Tim+, Nov 11, 2015
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    Andy Burns Guest

    It doesn't claim any more than "centre of postcode" accuracy.
     
    Andy Burns, Nov 11, 2015
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  18. Very useful.
    No the locations are rubbish as I know where most of the ones near me are because BT sent me a map back in 2009 when they put them in.

    Several are shown in private locations, when AFAIK they are almost always in the street.
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Nov 11, 2015
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  19. I can't speak for the ones in private locations in my area, but my cab
    is half a mile out. Mind, that could be the nearest house...

    Andy
     
    Vir Campestris, Nov 11, 2015
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    Bill Ward Guest

    Great, it is not the one thought it was. It is much nearer in the next
    street and I had been down part of that street last week without
    noticing it. I will look tomorrow. I did find another one today that was
    camouflaged as it was in front of a hedge.
    Does the % figure how many lines are in use from the cabinet. The one
    for our post code is 86% the other one next to it is 100%.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 11, 2015
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