Samsung gets ready for 5G roll out

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    7 Guest

    Samsung gets ready for 5G roll out

    Sadly foot dragging by MBAs (read non-techies) that run
    UK telecom business and regulators have hardly got their
    finger out on behaf of us and begun 4G roll out.

    Because they are so far behind, the world has moved on to 5G
    roll out.

    Their R&D indicates using lots of antenna (64 so far) and pico cells
    of 2km can deliver 1gbit services to mobiles and usher
    in a new era of mobile broadband.

    So where to now for the failed MBA's that run UK telecoms
    businesses and failed MBAs is regulatory bodies that support
    them and not the user's and their interests?

    Obviously they need to ring up the trolling companies
    to protect them from the truth and reality by throwing
    a reality distortion field around their out dated 4G roll out.
    Then they need to contact politician and rope them into
    helping them out with astronomical red tape and
    and charges to make sure users never see 5G.
    Fake survey companies like EEdelman will be out in force
    taking surveys, delete all normal data and report on outliers
    proving that no one wants or cares about 5G.

    Educashun has failed our MBAs (read non-techies).
    Concepts like picking up the phone, ringing up Samsung and
    immediatly ordering up equipment for 5G trials, contacting
    politician to clear the way to take down 3G and replace them
    with 5G masts, send advertorials to users to inform
    of 5G and its benefits as a way of preparing users
    and businesses to switch over to 5G en-masse is out of the
    question for failed MBAs to put the users and their
    well being, and industrial infrastructure first.
    7, May 13, 2013
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  2. I don't want 5G or even 10G, I want very cheap 3G! Or a package with no free
    minutes and a gig of data a month for a fiver or less. :)

    Or even an O2 deal which would let me use the heap of broadband-related credit I
    have on my PAYG phone for net access.

    Still, I'm sure those who live a wireless life will appreciate the onward march of

    Andrew McP
    Andrew MacPherson, May 13, 2013
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  3. On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:24:16 +0100, 7
    I was with you until you started talking about taking down existing
    services and switching over en masse, as this would presumably require
    everybody to buy a new phone, discarding the perfectly usable ones
    they already have. I think there might just be a tiny bit of
    opposition to this if it were tried.

    Roderick Stewart, May 14, 2013
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    7 Guest

    up to 2km - but built up areas a lot less with mm wave transmitters.
    7, May 14, 2013
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    7 Guest

    Andrew MacPherson wrote:

    The two requests are not compatible.

    There is not enough bandwidth in 3G to give you cheap 3G.
    Ditch 3G and go to 5G - plenty bandwidth and lower

    Unless you are an MBA and educashun has failed you and you end up
    running telecom companies and regulator bodies against the interests
    of users like you.

    I bet even now the phone coversations are all about how to price
    up 5G at 3G data bit rates instead of pricing it up
    at lowest cost as you the users demand.

    The lowest cost is single chip or FPGA solution that does
    everything in on small suitcase sized box.

    I'm afraid educashun has failed the MBAs in charge to know
    what all that means.
    7, May 14, 2013
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    7 Guest

    You are out dated.

    The suggestion assumes perfectly usable as being OK
    when 99% of all the things you might do on your wireless LAN
    broadband is impossible once you are out of the house.

    Extreme rationing and restrictions on data to start with
    and completely ususable smartphones once you left a 5 miles
    from a city.

    Even in China, that is unacceptable.

    Have you asked your average smartphone user if they would play
    for a $100 5G smartphone and get gigabit services for same
    price as today????

    No you haven't.

    All the new 5G stuff would be relatively cheaper.
    And usage would be even higher.
    And revenues would be even higher.
    Everyone a winner.

    The way to do all this is to roll out 5G trials at cost
    and ask questions later instead of finding endless ways
    to do the foot dragging thing as happened with 4G.
    7, May 14, 2013
  7. It's acceptable to a great many people simply to have a mobile phone
    that works. It would not be acceptable to them to find out one day
    that it doesn't work because somebody has decided to switch off the
    system on which it depends in order to implement another one offering
    facilities that they couldn't have without buying a new phone, and
    which they don't want anyway. Who cares what they do in China.

    Roderick Stewart, May 14, 2013
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    7 Guest

    Roderick Stewart wrote:

    You are simply wrong.

    The rip off prices for data are a reflection of a system that can never work
    where everything is rationed and the MBAs are laughing it up when
    they should be out there installing 5G for the user.

    You are simply wrong.

    Paying through the nose is not a substitute for buying a cheaper
    mobile phone and getting a cheaper tarrif that does more
    for even less TOTAL money.

    Pay $100 for ne phone and 10 gbits of data phone per day
    versus keep your $300 phone and pay £1 per megabyte of data system??

    You serious?

    Learn some maths and stop promoting your tech luddite views.

    You have no idea how the tech landscape is shaped.

    You should - you live in a globally connected world.
    7, May 14, 2013
  9. That's a bit categorical. Evidence?
    I don't know the exact figures, but not everybody is interested in
    using a phone for gigabytes of data, just talking to each other and
    sending a few texts. Most of the people I know who have mobile phones
    just use them for those basic purposes, and taking snapshots of the
    kids. They wouldn't be pleased if their phone service were switched
    off in order to provide something for somebody else.

    Roderick Stewart, May 14, 2013
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    Roderick Stewart wrote:

    All stories from out dated yesterday.

    You haven't met kids of today.
    7, May 14, 2013
  11. The world doesn't just consist of kids.

    Roderick Stewart, May 14, 2013
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    7 Guest

    Roderick Stewart wrote:

    So? What about the adults that want 5G like me?

    Teenage kid to adult takes less time than 3 years.

    So what gifts do luddites propose for them?

    More data rations?

    Or are the MBAs (read non-techies) to abandon their educashun
    and go invest in 5G today and make provisions?
    7, May 14, 2013
  13. Yes, I was thinking about that later, at work. It may be that I actually want 5G
    very badly indeed, but I only want a very tiny bit of it. :)

    Andrew McP
    Andrew MacPherson, May 14, 2013
  14. You might find it interesting to read this-

    It's written by technical journalists, so presumably they have their
    ears a bit closer to the ground than the rest of us. On the basis of
    what they say, "5G" is just an informal working name for something
    that in reality doesn't yet appear to be much more than a feasibility
    test in a laboratory. The practicalities of covering the planet with
    transmitters no more than 2km apart and finding uncontested
    frequencies at which they could work don't seem to have been thought
    of at all, though as usual, this hasn't stopped a lot of people who
    ought to know better from becoming excited about it as if it were a
    done deal planned for tomorrow.

    I daresay if it ever becomes possible to download a high definition
    movie to a phone in less than a second (to watch on a phone-sized
    screen presumably) the earliest adopters will decide that this is a
    vitally necessary thing to be able to do, but I can live happily
    without it for now. I don't think I'm alone.

    Roderick Stewart, May 15, 2013
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    Davey Guest

    Not only are you not alone, we number millions! I only have a mobile
    'phone for use in emergency (which includes the wife calling me to add
    to the shopping list), or to tell somebody that I will be late, but it
    can't take photographs, and I'm not certain if it can send or receive
    text messages or not. Why would I need to? I can 'phone them if I
    The device is there to make telephone calls, not watch films.
    Davey, May 15, 2013
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    Andy Champ Guest

    I can live without a phone I have to charge every night, and dies if it
    sees a raindrop.

    I'm actually looking at 3G ATM though - because I can get a 3G dongle on
    a short contract, but a land line has to be 12 months.

    Andy Champ, May 15, 2013
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    Martin Brown Guest

    Mine expired in a puddle of water - well it worked for about twenty
    minutes afterwards and then never worked again.
    If budget will stretch to it a MyFi node has a better aerial than a
    dongle and will run faster in my experience. My Three connection runs
    nearly twice the speed of my fixed line ADSL but £3.5/GB stings a bit.
    Martin Brown, May 15, 2013
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    Andy Champ Guest

    You mean MiFi. Thanks, I'll look into it.

    Andy Champ, May 15, 2013
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    Andy Burns Guest

    If I could download a HD movie (TV and phone sized screens have
    effectively converged for the time being) in less than 15 minutes over
    broadband, that'd be progress ...
    Andy Burns, May 15, 2013
  20. Movies, schmoovies...
    They don't make 'em like they used to.
    And the ones they did make and are worth watching can be seen on many
    channels on your Freeview TV.
    Who wants to/is able to watch a full-length movie on a firkin' phone, FFS?
    George Weston, May 15, 2013
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