router for poor quality line

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Steve Heaven, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. Steve Heaven

    Steve Heaven Guest

    Does anyone have a recommendation for a router that can sync on a poor
    quality line.

    The line is in a rural area and has both low SNR and high attenuation.
    We have had BT out several times to check the line, but they say it's the
    best they can do.

    Thanks in anticipation

    Steve
     
    Steve Heaven, Feb 7, 2007
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    kraftee Guest

    Draytek released a different firmware update for the longer line problems,
    but they're not cheap, unless you can get your hands on a 2600 going cheap..
     
    kraftee, Feb 7, 2007
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    chris Guest

    I also live a long way from the exchange - some 9 Km. I only managed
    to get broadband of any sort at all when ADSLMax started last year. I
    treied various bits of kit from friends and the ONLY router that
    synchronised from those I tried was a Netgear DG834. The Draytek 2600
    with long line firmware failed. Mine is not wireless but that one
    works as well. Nothing else worked including the BT engineer's own
    test kit. I have had a reliable service since last May. Admittedly
    the speeds are not brilliant but it sure beats dialup. I synchronise
    between 6-700 usually. Attenuation shows the maximum that the router
    can support i.e.63. SNR goes from an occasional high of 7 down to as
    low as 1 at times but it works!
     
    chris, Feb 8, 2007
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  4. Steve Heaven

    [L.] Guest

    I have a 2600+ (still under warranty) which I used successfully for
    almost a year on a bad line. If you want it, make me an offer (plus
    postage)

    Lorenz

    Email:

    usenet
    at lorenz
    dot clara
    dot co
    dot uk

    [L.]
     
    [L.], Feb 8, 2007
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    NoNeedToKnow Guest

    Why not put it on Ebay, set a reserve (if you want, but if so, please
    have a sensible starting price, say 80% of your reserve) and let it
    go to whomever wants it. If you get a sale on Ebay. we'll not see
    any more posts about it... which would be a relief, for me at least!

    I guess previous offers have been too low for you to accept (in which
    case, best give some minimum you will accept, else you waste your time
    posting about it every few weeks/months when a similar query comes up).
     
    NoNeedToKnow, Feb 8, 2007
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    Jon Guest

    I have an attenuation of 57 db (so not THE longest line) but I agree
    with the above. On my line I have tried a Draytek 2600, a BT Voyager
    2090, a SpeedTouch and a NetGear DG834N. I had seen various posts
    recommending the Draytek and SpeedTouch for "bad" / "long" lines, and
    advising that NetGear were not good.

    In my experience the NetGear is by far the best. On a BT MAX
    connection it synced at 34xx meaning I maintained a 3 MB BRAS profile
    (most of the time). The Draytek would only manage about 24xx (even
    with their "long line firmware"), the SpeedTouch a little better but
    not much. I am now on SKY LLU and NetGear syncs at 37xx, and holds the
    connection solidly - no drops in weeks.

    Of course this is only my personal experience, but the NetGear is
    working great for me.

    -Jon.
     
    Jon, Feb 8, 2007
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  7. Steve Heaven

    [L.] Guest

    I'm awfully sorry if the messages I posted about the 2600+ being
    available have bothered you.

    ebay could indeed be a solution, but as a matter of fact, I have never
    sold anything on ebay, and I'm having more than enough on my plate
    right now to learn how to do it.

    Also, I am not that desperate to sell it. Having a second router as a
    standby in case of problems with my main one gives me a fuzzy feeling
    of reassurance. So I was offering it more as a service to the OP than
    anything else.

    Again, please accept my apologies.

    Lorenz

    PS Would

    Author: =\[L.\] and body: (2600 & (sell|sale))

    help you? It should probably work.

    [L.]
     
    [L.], Feb 8, 2007
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  8. I have a BT "Business Hub" (aka 2Wire 2700) that syncs at 2.4 meg on noisy line.
    No drops.

    I tried Draytek 2800 but it could only manage 1.6 meg


    There's loads of these 2700's on ebay 'cos BT give them away - and there some generic firmware that
    allows you to us it with other ISPs - mail me if you want it.


    Never tried netgear...


    Adam
     
    Adam Lipscombe, Feb 8, 2007
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  9. I use a Speedtouch 510 - because the 'Frog' always used to have a good
    reputation in this respect.

    I would suggest connecting the router to your master socket, and connecting any
    downstream extension wiring via a Microfilter or filtered faceplate.
     
    Michael Chare, Feb 9, 2007
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  10. Does anyone have a recommendation for a router that can sync on a poor
    quality line.

    The line is in a rural area and has both low SNR and high attenuation.
    We have had BT out several times to check the line, but they say it's the
    best they can do.

    Thanks in anticipation

    Steve


    I am in a similar situation, and like a couple of your respondents I have
    found a Netgear DG834 to be OK. I also tried a Draytek 2800 with all the
    available firmwares, but it never synced at all over test periods of days at
    a time. The Netgear typically takes a few hours to sync from switch-on -
    usually after a mains failure (I try not to switch it off otherwise!).

    On ADSLmax from zen, the Netgear reports downstream rates between 160 and
    288 Kbps, 63 db atten., noise margin zero to 12 db depending on the weather
    (worst when hot & sunny - sometimes loses sync then for a few hours) and
    upstream is always 448 Kbps, 15 db atten., noise margin 12 - 13 db.

    HTH

    Trev.
     
    Trevor Morris, Feb 9, 2007
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