Reducing the impact of P2P users on home network

Discussion in 'Wireless Internet' started by Mike S., Dec 21, 2006.

  1. Mike S.

    George Guest

    Just advise whomever is responsible that you will be expecting them to
    pay the $10,000 fine noted in the demand letter that will be addressed
    to you.

    and polite
    George, Dec 22, 2006
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  2. Mike S.

    Wheaty Guest

    (Mike S.) wrote in
    grab an old p2 box and istall m0n0wall ( or pfsense
    ( on it, put it between your cable modem and the WRT54G,
    and use the traffic shaping rules to crush the P2P traffic. You won't
    prohibit it (unless you want to), but you can certainly squash it to the
    point where it becomes too boring for them to wait, and you can blame it
    on your ISP as the m0n0/pfsense box is transparent to them unless they
    physically look at your setup, or know what to look for. If you have an
    old system laying around with some extra network cards, this is the
    cheapest option.. its free.
    Wheaty, Dec 28, 2006
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  3. Mike S.

    dennis Guest

    The problem with modern p2p traffic is that much of the traffic is not
    p2p transfers, but icmp discovery and http directory exchange, which
    cannot be distinguished from normal icmp and http. You can limit icmp,
    but then you'll get dropped pings and customers will complain about
    your network.

    We've found the best strategy for managing abusers is to control each
    IP/customer with an individual bandwidth profile. Our product allows
    you to allow users to burst only for specific periods of time, and also
    control the packets/second in addition to bandwidth. We've found that
    abusive protocols tend to have much higher pps usage than well-behaved
    protocols, so pps is very effective.

    The concept behind per-customer control is simple: you don't allow any
    one user to use more than his fair share of bandwidth. Another problem
    with the "squash p2p" method is that users who want to download 1 or 2
    songs can't do it, becuase you've generally disabled p2p on your
    network. If a customer subscibes to a 512K service, why shouldnt they
    be able to do whatever they want with their bandwidth, as long as they
    don't abuse it? With per customer settings, if a user chooses to fire
    up p2p, they only squash themselves. If they complain that they can't
    surf, you simply tell them to turn off the p2p program and they'll be
    able to surf. Its a strategy thats not only fair, its very, very

    Dennis Baasch
    Emerging Technologies, Inc.
    dennis, Dec 29, 2006
  4. Mike S.

    Wheaty Guest

    wrote in

    That sounds all well and good, but I do know a couple of things. Each
    user (specific IP) can be allotted a particular total bandwidth share by
    using pf or m0n0. I have never done it, but I have read of it being done
    through the use of pipes/ queues, static DHCP and the like.
    Secondly, although I may have read further into it than I should have,
    it sounds to me as thought the OP is the subscriber, not the offending
    downloaders. So going on that assumption- wrong or not- it is well
    within his rights to throttle back the P2P traffic as much as he likes.
    But, if I am wrong, so be it.
    While your product sounds interesting, what is the cost? Is it
    comparable to free?
    There are a number of ISP's who do consider downloading one or two songs
    abuse... copyright infringement. But that is a topic for another group
    Wheaty, Dec 29, 2006
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