Recommendation for Wireless-G access point with WPA encryption

Discussion in 'Home Networking' started by Martin Underwood, Apr 9, 2005.

  1. My parents have an ADSL router and want to add a Wireless-G access point for
    use with a new laptop that has a built-in wireless adaptor.

    At a quick glance on the Dabs site, all the APs that I can see [*] only
    support WEP encryption and not WPA.

    Can anyone suggest an inexpensive AP that supports Wireless-G and WPA
    encryption.

    It must be a separate access point because the access point needs to be in a
    different location to the router (well, the hub part of it) in order to get
    good wireless coverage and yet accommodate the existing Cat 5 cabling.



    [*] I've looked at:

    - Dlink DWL-2000AP+
    - Belkin F5D7130UK
    - WAP54G-UK
     
    Martin Underwood, Apr 9, 2005
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  2. Martin Underwood

    Conor Turton Guest

    Why does it need to be? Are you running those abysmal USB WiFi
    adapters?
     
    Conor Turton, Apr 10, 2005
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  3. Martin Underwood

    Treeherder Guest

    - WAP54G <http://tinyurl.com/29u6t> supports WPA.
    - Belkin F5D7130UK <http://tinyurl.com/4dunp> doesn't
    - DLink 2000AP is discontinued and is replaced by the 2100
    <http://tinyurl.com/2xttx>, which does


    You should really check specifications with the manufacturers, not
    believe what the retailers tell you. I found all this information within
    5 minutes.
     
    Treeherder, Apr 10, 2005
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  4. I *was* testing the coverage with a Netgear WG111T USB WiFi adapter as it
    happens. Does this type of adapter generally perform worse than an adapter
    that's built into a laptop (ie not a plug-in card that's got its own rubber
    duck aerial)?

    One thing I found with my Netgear DG834GT router was that the signal was
    very noticeably attenuated when I put it in place of my parents' own
    router, down on the study floor next to a huge metal filing cabinet. When I
    moved it up into the loft (the house is a bungalow) and slightly closer to
    the area where coverage is needed, the coverage area increased dramatically.
    Unfortunately the lengths of the Cat 5 cables don't allow a router to be
    positioned further away from the filing cabinet.
     
    Martin Underwood, Apr 10, 2005
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  5. Yes, I probably should have checked the manufacturers' web sites. I found
    the Dlink 2100AP but I noticed that this was significantly more expensive: I
    was being my usual parsimonious self and trying to do things on the
    cheap :)

    One problem is that sometimes retailers are selling out-of-date revisions of
    products: the Netgear WG602 (V1) does not support WPA (according to Netgear)
    whereas the V2 and V3 do. Dabs don't distinguish which version they are
    supplying.

    broadbandbuyer.co.uk, which I found later, does make it clear which version
    you are getting. It seems to have a lot of good background information about
    wireless technology as well, even if its Security page only mentions WEP and
    not WPA!
     
    Martin Underwood, Apr 10, 2005
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  6. Martin Underwood

    Treeherder Guest

    You are probably a lot better off buying from broadbandb than dabs. Even
    better, try a local computer shop that is willing to order-in exactly
    what you want. May be a touch cheaper, but worth the extra (IMO) so that
    you get exactly what you want and have a real person to contact if it
    isn't what is ordered.

    Good luck!
     
    Treeherder, Apr 10, 2005
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  7. Martin Underwood

    Conor Turton Guest

    Performs about the same as a PCMCIA card but alot worse than a Centrino
    based model with it built in and horredous compared to something like a
    Dlink 900AP used in client mode or a PCI card with proper screw in
    aerial (as opposed to those PCI adapters for PCMCIA cards).

    A comparison.

    My wifes boss has a 802.11b Belkin WiFi ADSL Modem Router in his house
    on the third storey. His workshop, where my wife works, is at the end
    of a 80ft garden at ground level. The PC with wifi in the workshop is
    behind a leaded window. With the USB adapter the best we've got is
    "good" at 2.2MB, pretty much the same story for a PCMCIA card. With a
    PCI WiFi card in the signal is excellent,90-95%, at 11MBit.

    Shame. If there's a spare port on the router, you could run a cable to
    the loft and stick the WAP up there.
     
    Conor Turton, Apr 10, 2005
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  8. With a Netgear DG834GT router supplying the signal and a WG111T USB adapter
    to receive it, I was getting 108 Mbit/sec in the same room, 36 or 54 in
    adjacent rooms, 18 or 24 in further rooms (each with breezeblock walls) and
    1 to 5.5 in the conservatory beyond the external brick/breezeblock wall of
    the house. That was with the rounter on the floor next to a metal filing
    cabinet - hardly ideal conditions!

    With the router in the first-floor loft (not connected to anything, but I
    could at least "ping -t" the router and look at signal strength) I got 36 or
    54 throughout the whole house and in the conservatory or on the patio, and a
    usable 24 at the bottom of the garden 100 feet away.

    That's what I'm going to do.

    I've identified Netgear WG602 V3 and Linksys WAP54G as affordable access
    points. Both are similar prices from broadbandbuyer.co.uk. Does anyone have
    any recommendations of one rather than the other.

    The laptop has a built-in Wireless-G adaptor (not sure whether the laptop is
    Centrino-based) so it wil be interesting to see how coverage as detected by
    this compares with my WG111T adapter.
     
    Martin Underwood, Apr 10, 2005
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