OT:: Is this political or linguistic?

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  1. Rhett Oracle

    Rhett Oracle Guest

    Have you ever noticed that "Illuminati" and "Lucifer" both evaluate to
    "the one with light"?

    Rhett Oracle, Nov 24, 2004
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    John Fields Guest

    John Fields, Nov 24, 2004
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    John Larkin Guest

    Hey, this is the closest you've yet come to the subject of electronics
    design! Excellent progress.

    John Larkin, Nov 24, 2004
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    Jim Thompson Guest

    Maybe one of Rich's "personalities" (I call them schizophrenic
    versions :) will get back on track.

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    Jim Thompson, Nov 24, 2004
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    Rhett Oracle Guest

    Not surprising, since your sample for comparison is zero.
    Rhett Oracle, Nov 24, 2004
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    Rich Grise Guest

    Oh, I'm still OK[0] - Since I've learned how to supervise the kids, I can
    let them come out and play without anybody getting seriously killed. ;-)
    (and I found out how trivially easy it is to make a new monicker in Pan)

    It also seems to reduce my perceived risk of experiencing SHC. ;-)


    [0] Well, as close to "OK" as I've ever been....
    Rich Grise, Nov 24, 2004
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    Rich Grise Guest

    It took me a very long time to realize this, and I'm still not convinced
    that it's true, but I'm honestly baffled by the concept that there are
    people who are even capable of thinking only one thing at a time, or maybe
    even nothing. I can't do that. I give thanks every day that somebody
    injected enough sanity into my brain that I've been able to know better
    than to do really really stupid dangerous stuff, for the most part. It's
    also my major excuse for major alcohol and drug use - I can't get them all
    to just SHUT UP! I think schizophrenia is only a problem if you lose track
    of which is real reality and which personality should be driving the bus.

    So you guys end up the victims of my big blather/pig bladder. - see? I
    just can't stop it, and self-restraint is such a bore. ;-)

    Forgive them, for they know not what they do. ;-)

    Rich Grise, Nov 24, 2004
  8. Or that one of the titles of JC is 'Morning Star' who is none other than Venus,
    aka Lucifer?


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    Dirk Bruere at Neopax, Nov 24, 2004
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    Clarence Guest

    What? No way!

    Venus is the goddess of love and beauty, only in the corrupt view of Christian
    revisionism could you equate that to Lucifer "The Regent of Earth." No way to
    confuse "Sol Invictus" for "Christ" (the Anointed) except by confusing people
    with false claims.

    From what I can tell, Lucifer is the ancient Greek name of Venus the Morning
    Star, but I know nothing about the history of when it was first used in
    translations of the Bible to refer to Satan. It seems that the Greeks were
    using Lucifer, together with Persephone, to identify Venus long before the name
    was used to represent Satan.


    The History of a Planet
    No star, among the countless myriads that twinkle over the sidereal fields
    of the night sky, shines so dazzlingly as the planet Venus not even
    Sirius-Sothis, the dog-star, beloved by Isis. Venus is the queen among our
    planets, the crown jewel of our solar system. She is the inspirer of the poet,
    the guardian and companion of the lonely shepherd, the lovely morning and the
    evening star. For,

    Stars teach as well as shine,"
    Clarence, Nov 24, 2004
  10. It's not as simple as that given the trouble YHVH had with the Goddess(es) of
    the region who equate to Venus-Aphrodite.
    For example, the titles of Mary and her iconic representation is that of
    Isis/Astarte etc. They transferred smotthly and almost in totality.

    Which makes JC's mother... the Goddess and major opponent of YHVH.

    This in turn strengthens the case for Lucifer and JC being (at least) close
    relatives if not identical. Which one might expect mythologically speaking as JC
    was executed by the most devoted subjects of YHVH.


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    Dirk Bruere at Neopax, Nov 24, 2004
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    Clarence Guest

    "Dirk Bruere at Neopax" wrote
    The word Satan only means "The Opponent, or one who opposes" It is NOT a
    person nor a name.

    Vilifying anyone who does not follow their narrow view of who or what is a God
    could get you killed (Burned at the stake or tortured by the Christian
    extremists.) There are several hundred years of examples of this kind of
    teaching the people to be followers of Christ.
    IF by JC you mean Joseph called Jesus (Jesus = servant of god) Christ
    (anointed) who was a Pharisee rabbi, a member of a wealthy family in Palestine.
    His mother (marry by translation) was elevated to virgin by the catholic church
    about three hundred years later to follow older more respectable legends.

    Lucifer was old testament, and the prince of darkness was called Lucifer. A
    misnomer of course, probably due to a miss translation somewhere.

    There is no crossing over of the old religions and this recent corruption of
    the old religions. Only false claims by sycophants.

    What garbage! Are you saying that Lucifer was a Jew? He was only described as
    a beautiful angel!
    (Beautiful = hansom, angel = messenger)
    That would tend to rule out any possibility of his being from the tribes of
    short, swarthy, and vicious, wandering Jews.

    Like Quetzaquatl he may have been a tall slender blond youth!

    He was not a Yahu!

    YAH or YAHU Pronounced "Yah-Whoo"

    The 'Personal' Name of the 'God of Israel' by which He anciently revealed
    Himself to Moses (EXODUS 6:2). 'YAH' is spelt in original Hebrew, with the
    10th letter of the Hebrew alphabet - the 'yood', smallest letter in the
    alphabet, represented by the inverted comma ( ' ). YAHU also has the meaning of
    'He is YAH'
    Clarence, Nov 24, 2004
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    Clarence Guest

    So sorry. I didn't notice the broad cross post.
    Clarence, Nov 24, 2004
  13. I'm saying that mythology is not static and has evolved over the past two
    millenia. The YHVH mythology itself expanded considerably with Xianity, and
    itself has mutated to retrospectively include a mythos based (amongst other
    things, on mis-translations. See Josephs 'coat of many colours' as another minor


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    Dirk Bruere at Neopax, Nov 24, 2004
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    Jim Ward Guest

    Old matches were call "lucifers".

    Lambent means "to lick with light". Heh.
    Jim Ward, Nov 24, 2004
  15. Oh, yeah - shoulda have mentioned him too. We're all the kids of The King
    Of The Universe, after all - why should the bastard brother have all the

    Rich The Philosophizer, Nov 24, 2004
  16. Well, there _is_ another take on the matter, which can set a new context
    where _all_ of the mythologies make sense, and fit in.

    And the thing that is the most convincing that it's really true, is the
    lengths to which people will go to avoid reading it, even if only to
    refute it!

    This factoid itself speaks volumes of its credibility!

    See what God has to say about the whole issue - what have you got to lose?

    Or, aren't you _Man_ enough to go face-to-face with your maker?

    Heh, heh.

    I'll be keeping score. ;-)

    Rich TP
    Rich The Philosophizer, Nov 24, 2004
  17. Lucifer is nothing but denied JHVJ, who has had the assignment of
    torturing Mother to get revenge for JHVH's feelings of inadequacy in the
    face of the fact that he came out of Mother's hole.

    JHVH has clued up, and is reconstituting and redeeming Lucifer now, and
    Ahriman too, for that matter, as Mother recovers from her coma caused by
    Original Trauma, and comes into Her Own Right as The Mother Of Everything.
    And she's recovering from the Asuras too, which are simply nothingness
    that's being held in its wrong place. All you have to do to heal them is

    And I _still_ haven't had one single "taker" - there hasn't been anybody
    who has enough confidence/faith in their own convictions to go and visit
    http://www.godchannel.com , even if only to refute it!

    That speakes volumes at its intrinsic credibility. i.e. it MUST be true -
    everybody's avoiding it like the plague! And the way I know this is
    because they are behaving exactly as predicted!

    Good Luck!

    Me, Too!
    - The Pig Bladder from Uranus
    Me, Too!
    - Rhett Auricle
    Me, Too! And don't pay any attention to that man behind the curtain!
    - Rhett Oracle

    Zuzej is off contemplating his navel. ;-)
    Rich The Philosophizer, Nov 25, 2004
  18. http://www.kbnet.co.uk/artemis/words/Travels/words.htm


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    Dirk Bruere at Neopax, Nov 25, 2004
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    Clarence Guest

    Clarence, Nov 25, 2004
  20. Gee... thanks for sharing that with us.
    Have a nice day y'all
    Come again


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    Dirk Bruere at Neopax, Nov 25, 2004
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