NTL trials 100Mbit broadband

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by 7, Feb 12, 2006.

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    7 Guest


    Other countries have for years been running 100Mbit SDSL
    for about 30 quid a month and its good to see at least one
    UK outfit going 100Mbit even if its only a technologically
    inferior ADSL only type of dis-service.
    7, Feb 12, 2006
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    Mugwump Guest

    Mugwump, Feb 12, 2006
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    Dave Stanton Guest

    Its 7's pet subject, anytime now it will be a tirade against BT.

    Dave Stanton, Feb 12, 2006
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    Alastair Guest

    It isn't ADSL.
    Alastair, Feb 12, 2006
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    7 Guest

    Doh! Who said it was?
    Its not SDSL - i.e. equal upload and download bit rate.
    Its ADSL type - i.e. low upload bit rate compared to download bit rate.
    7, Feb 12, 2006
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    7 Guest

    Thanks for reminding me.... to remind fsck wits at BT$ sales nuts
    astroturfing here that they are tiresome ding dongs that should fall on
    their own swords whenever they are caught with their panties down on issues
    like offering capped dis-service when capping equipment costs more than
    uncapped service, failing to offer low cost cheaper SDSL than ADSL
    by bundling unwanted SLA, or failing offer speed in line with global norms.

    To previous poster, I meant to say 100Mbit has been available for years
    in many countries like Japan, Korea etc for 30 quid a month
    and that 100Mbit SDSL had been rolled out in USA for many months for about
    same price as ADSL. You can google.
    7, Feb 12, 2006
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    Peter M Guest

    A Hong Kong cable service was the first one I'd heard of, in
    the second half of last year. If you claim a number of other
    countries have been ofering this for years, some URLs of their
    service providers would show it was the case. No URLs and this
    looks like more of your old ramblings. Peter Morgan.
    Peter M, Feb 12, 2006
  8. Dubai have had 100M Ethernet for years.
    I worked for the company that planned and installed it.

    I don't know of many others where the network can actually deliver 100M even
    though the technologies allow it.
    Iceland probably can but its been a while since I saw any network diagrams
    for that country.
    [email protected], Feb 12, 2006
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    chappycheeky Guest

    On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 08:52:25 GMT, 7


    Irealise that assisted suicide is illegal in this country, but I'd be
    willing to take the risk in your case.
    chappycheeky, Feb 12, 2006
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    Peter M Guest

    Thanks for that. Wonder what users pay ... vaguely remember
    some of the oil-rich nations had all local phone calls free,
    and internet services might be subsidised, too.
    From memory, on the HK cable service, only local connections
    can be up to 100 Mbps, with international connections limited
    to 20 Mbps. Many LANs have worked well for years at 10 Mbps,
    and one reason for switching to 100 Mbps these days would be
    the cost and availability of kit running at 10/100 while 10
    Mbps kit is now getting to be the exception!

    It's all very well to have 10 Mpbs or higher, but I see hardly
    any point in expecting much higher speeds from some remote web
    server, because while the NTLs and others offer a fast link to
    their network, plenty of web farms still offer services based
    on 2 Mbps burst speed, and even with dedicated servers, just
    10 Mbps per server card, so their networks aren't flooded!

    The quest for speed is fun, but has limited need, or use, for
    now, and perhaps for a while to come, IMO. Peter M.
    Peter M, Feb 12, 2006
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    Gizmo Guest

    I worked for the Etisalat on their mobile phone network and
    infrastructure.... ahh those were the days, easy money and lots of it
    I only know of a couple of places were it actually works, but they used
    "ibre to the home"... which is kinda cheating ;o)
    Gizmo, Feb 12, 2006
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    alexd Guest

    You seem to be falling into the trap of presuming that all people ever do
    with an internet connection is browse websites, all hosted in data centres.

    For example, if one had two offices, linked by 100mbit Cable, and one ran a
    VPN over it, NTLs network would effectively become one's own network. Which
    would be very cool.
    alexd, Feb 12, 2006
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    Ian Stirling Guest

    If 'proper' 100Mbps connections were widely available, then the first
    application that went on it for me would be a mirroring app, to keep
    live disk backups, and to enable all but one of a mirrored disk to
    be spun down.

    Not to mention 2Mbps webcam streams, ...
    Ian Stirling, Feb 12, 2006
  14. Like er Hong Kong... where local calls were free for decades.
    Presumably this is a throughput class restriction to provide diversity on
    external links.
    R. Mark Clayton, Feb 12, 2006
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    7 Guest

    Alright, go ahead and jump you fool!

    We will clap thoughtfully on your behalf.

    Thats assistance enough for you I hope?
    7, Feb 12, 2006
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    7 Guest

    That just summarized what little you know about internet.
    The biggest 'provider' of content are not web servers or
    indeed any centralized server based product of any kind.
    Despite explosive growth, server traffice has largely
    been superceeded by peering traffic. 100Mbit would greatly
    speed up peering. The very same thing that pusnets of this
    world are trying to deny to internet users with keyhole links
    from their buildings and illegally named and sold capped services.
    7, Feb 12, 2006
  17. Hardly cheating.. even BT wanted to fibre the country but were prevented
    from doing so as it would have made the cable operators uncompetitive.
    [email protected], Feb 12, 2006
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    Gizmo Guest

    I think you missed my smiley " ;o) "
    Gizmo, Feb 12, 2006
  19. I thought that was a fragment of code attached to your message.
    Its easy to pass encrypted messages by dispersing them through posts.
    IMO it explains the big rise in what looks like txt spk in usenet messages.
    I mean people that are that thick wouldn't be able to post to usenet in the
    first place would they? ;-)
    [email protected], Feb 12, 2006
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    Paul Cummins Guest

    Indeed. I run an internal 100Mbps network, as does a friend. We VPN to
    each other, since I have a terabit drive here. But we're currently
    limited to 256Kbps VPN transfers...
    Paul Cummins, Feb 12, 2006
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