New router advice sought - Draytek or Zyxel?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Andrew Sayers, Jan 26, 2006.

  1. Hi

    I'm going to replace my Linksys WAG54G router, as I want to use VOIP via normal BT
    phones using a router and also get better reporting of stuff like line noise etc.
    VOIP is the main consideration however.

    I've narrowed it down to 2 possibilities, either the DrayTek Vigor 2800VG, or the
    ZyXEL Prestige 2602HW. Both give me VOIP, wireless, have firewall and built in

    The Vigor has the advantage of a printer port, which would be useful for my inkjet
    printer (I've got a laser too, but it is networkable) as it could then be used via
    mine and my wife's laptops without the need to turn on my main machine. The Vigor
    also supports 108 mbps.

    The ZyXEL is cheaper though at around £132 inc VAT, while the Draytek is nearly £174
    inc VAT at Broadbandbuyer.

    The Vigor looks to be better, but I'm not sure if it's worth the extra money. I'd
    very much appreciate opinions from anyone whose has experience of these routers, or
    may know more about then than I do.

    Andrew Sayers, Jan 26, 2006
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  2. Andrew Sayers

    usenet Guest

    I have a recently bought 2602HW, it'll cost you much less than £132 if
    you buy from, £86.95.

    The Media Bandwidth Management isn't implemented in the current
    version of the firmware but will be in the next release.

    There have been quite a few reports here of problems with the VOIP on
    the 2800VG, take a look back using Google Groups. The VOIP worked
    very easily for me (a VOIP newbie) on the 2602, we're not using it
    very heavily at the moment though.
    usenet, Jan 26, 2006
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  3. Andrew Sayers

    Martin² Guest

    I have got 2600VGi and Zyxel 2602HWL.
    The Draytek is excellent in every way, but the recently update VoIP firmware
    is still not fully functional.
    You can't control both lines from one phone and few other functions.
    AFAIK nobody has yet managed to make it work with sipdicount :-(
    The 2800 series is ADSL2+ compatible but AFAIK the VoIP part is unchanged.

    The Zyxel hasn't got any of the above problems, the only minus point is just
    10 speed dial No's ( Draytek has 60).
    Had it since May, on good 2Mb/s line, had to re boot twice. One time both
    VoIP wouldn't register for few days,
    but it did sort itself out eventually. I rate is as very good, specially if
    you get it at the right price:

    At the moment the HW version is very cheap from broadbandbuyer 'cos they
    have got the price wrong !
    Compare it to the HWL which only adds the PSTN pass-trough facility.

    Finally you should have look at Fritz! box (available from
    which has got the best VoIP features.
    Haven't heard any complaints about it.
    Martin², Jan 27, 2006
  4. Andrew Sayers

    Andy Repton Guest

    But make sure you either want the existing version or wait for the new
    7050 which adds an extra IP port and an ISDN port. The ISDN lets you use
    ISDN phones internally even with an external analogue or VOIP line, so
    you can add an ISDN cordless phone and have two lines active

    The UK versions appear to be one model behind the German ones, which is
    unfortunate as the German one also has a printer/USB disk port.
    Andy Repton, Jan 27, 2006
  5. Thanks for the info guys. It looks like I'll go for the ZyXEL at the braodbandbuyers

    As a matter of interest who are you using for your VOIP service? I'm using Skype at
    the moment but I don't know whether that service works over a VOIP router with a
    standard phone so I may have to switch to one of the other providers such as Vonage.
    Andrew Sayers, Jan 28, 2006
  6. Andrew Sayers

    alexd Guest

    Skype is proprietary, so you won't be able to plug a phone into your ZyXel
    and expect it to work with Skype.

    Vonage also fiddle with their protocols, so you have to pay for a
    'softphone' line to get it to work with a standard SIP client like your
    ZyXel. Using Vonage with your Zyxel will cost sixteen quid for 500 minutes
    a month. Which [as you've probably guessed by now] is shit. Compare with
    [these are assumptions based on just calling geo numbers]:

    500 minutes/mo 16 quid/mo

    Sipgate @1.2p/min £6 1300 minutes @1p/min £5 1600 minutes

    Note that both these services are PAYG, ie there are no 'rental' fees due
    every month, and both offer incoming geo numbers in pretty much all area

    Of course if you sign up for Vonage and use their supplied kit, it'll be a
    tenner a month all in, but to be honest, I'd have to be pretty sure I was
    using >1000 minutes a month [more than half an hour every single day] of
    outbound calls in order to justify it. Also there may be a minimum contract
    period with Vonage - I can't tell without actually signing up.
    alexd, Jan 28, 2006
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