Netgear switch - managed vs unmanaged

Discussion in 'Home Networking' started by Mike, Feb 5, 2008.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Need a new wired switch.

    Going for netgear: FS116 - unmanaged vs FSM726 managed

    Any thoughts on if i buy a managed one, would this allow me to network all
    pc's but stop my sons one from accessing the internet?.

    I am only familar with the unmanaged plug and go switches
    Mike, Feb 5, 2008
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  2. Mike

    Linker3000 Guest

    Wrong kind of management for blocking traffic - that would need to be
    done at/by your router, so go for an unmanaged switch and check your
    router's features.

    Have a read:


    Linker3000, Feb 5, 2008
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  3. Mike

    Mike Guest

    It a bit more complicated as we have shared internet connection in the
    building so i have no control over the router.
    We plug into a wall socket and simply point our pc's to the default gateway which is the router in the building.
    Any ideas on the best route?
    Mike, Feb 5, 2008
  4. Mike

    robert Guest

    Cant the FSM726 achieve the OP requirement by setting
    up 2 port based VLANS. One including all PCs, the other including the
    internet connection port and the PCs allowed to use the internet.

    Of course this wouldnt stop someone with physical access to the switch
    bypassing this block unless you can restrict each port to a specific MAC
    address ( which I think you can do) ??

    Not an expert in this area so only a tentative suggestion !
    robert, Feb 5, 2008
  5. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Can anyone elaborate/confirm?.
    I see netgear website also have hardware firewalls.
    I wonder if a solution could be to have a netgear firewall and a netgear
    unmanaged switch.
    Mike, Feb 5, 2008
  6. Mike

    Linker3000 Guest

    Possibly - but then you bugger up (or complicate) inter-operability
    between the PCs (such as printer or disk sharing, if needed) and the OP
    implied they just wanted controlled access to the Internet rather than
    segregating the PCs.

    One idea with a good price that springs to mind is a router running
    dd-wrt firmware. Using dd-wrt's access controls will allow specific
    machines to be blocked from the Internet at given times (or 24/7) - eg:

    dd-wrt loaded onto a Linksys WRT54GL (£40 for the router AND you get
    wifi! dd-wrt is free)

    Just stick the router between the Internet gateway and all the PCs. The
    WRT54Gl has 4 LAN and 1 WAN port so it's ready to go for up to 4 PCs. If
    more are to be linked, add an (unmanaged!) switch.
    Linker3000, Feb 5, 2008
  7. Mike

    Linker3000 Guest

    Just to clarify: My comment about complicating things was aimed at the
    idea of VLANs.

    A Netgear firewall is an option (I use the Prosafe firewalls) but doing
    it with a Linksys box and dd-wrt would be cheaper.
    Linker3000, Feb 5, 2008
  8. Mike

    robert Guest

    If All the Pcs and printers are in one VLAN would there be any problems
    with interoperability between them ?

    As any port can be in more than 1 VLAN , one can visualise the setup
    like overlapping Venn diagrams.

    Setting up the VLANs looks from the user guide to be simple using the
    graphics interface.

    I've only had a little experience of setting up a VLAN several years ago
    but their advantage seems that they work at switch level and dont
    involve the network settings of the PCs themselves.
    robert, Feb 6, 2008
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