Moving from Virgin ADSL to Virgin Cable

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Deux, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. Deux

    Deux Guest

    Because my ADSL speed is so poor (just over 1Mb) I'm thinking of moving
    to the 10Mb Virgin Cable package.

    I think my current ADSL package is already 10Mb but for reasons I've
    never understood my line isn't capable of this speed. Is it possible
    that I could have the same problem with cable or are fast speeds
    guaranteed? I don't mind signing up for a 10Mb package and getting
    7Mb but I don't want to end up still having 1Mb.

    I'm about 3 months into a minimum 12 month term for my current ADSL
    package having negotiated a new monthly fee. As I'm sticking with Virgin
    are they likely to waiver this 12 month minimum term?

    How long would the switch over typically take? The previous occupants
    had V. cable if that makes any difference.
    Deux, Dec 31, 2011
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  2. Cable broadband uses coaxial cables designed for the purpose, unlike ADSL
    which uses twisted pairs that are already there and were designed for quite
    a different purpose. Therefore you should get the speed you sign up for.
    You'll need to ask Customer Services about contracts.
    If the cable to the premises is already there, you can be sent a modem kit
    that you just plug in yourself. No need for a technician visit.

    Something to be aware of is that if you are using VM email on ADSL, it will
    be whereas cable email addresses are and
    you won't be able to transfer the old address to the new account. It may
    remain working for a while after the ADSL contract is finished but will
    eventually stop, so make sure you amend all your details on Amazon, Ebay
    etc before the change.

    Roderick Stewart, Jan 1, 2012
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  3. The cable cabinets cover fewer premises than the OpenReach PCP
    cabinets, so you're likely to be closer to a cable cabinet. The
    attenuation on coax is less than on twisted pair. These two combined
    mean you're likely to have less loss on a shorter run of coax than on
    twisted pair, so you win twice.
    I think Virgin Media claim that their customers do better in the "up to"
    speeds than customers on twisted pair ADSL. Some figures mentioned on
    Andrew Benham, Jan 2, 2012
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    Nucking Futs Guest

    But their network infrastructure is different. Ultimately *everything*
    they sell ends up going back to a regional centre in a single, typically
    oversubscribed, pipe.

    If the VM network was so wonderful [which it is not, it is shit], I'm
    sure the need to saturate your data centre with SQUID type proxy servers
    would be completely unnecessary.

    FTTC has some similarities to cable - they both seem to be victims of
    more than normal (if you can define such a thing) amounts of packet loss
    and delay. My money, however, would always be with FTTC over cable any
    day of the week. Not only do you have a choice of provider, but even on a
    bad day BT still have far better infrastructure (even the 20cn ATM back
    haul) than VM will ever be able to afford to invest in. Jesus, just look
    around any housing estate at the state of VM's shit - it's an utter mess.
    If that's the bit they have on show to the world, imagine what the rest
    of it is like.

    That ole 'speed' metric is utter bollocks. I may deliver 75% of your
    packets 10% faster than your competitor. But if I drop 25% of your
    packets forcing retransmission a few times will you benefit that much?
    The whole gig is about more than the local link speed, it's the back end
    throughput that really matters.
    Nucking Futs, Jan 3, 2012
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    Deux Guest

    Virgin still have Squid proxies? I had my account changed about 5 years
    ago to not use them and connect directly instead, much better.
    Deux, Jan 3, 2012
  6. On the old contract, but not on the new one.
    R. Mark Clayton, Jan 3, 2012
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