Modem cable with twisted pairs. How important?

Since I've just finished rewiring my under-stairs cupboard for phone &
broadband and installed my new VDSL router/modem, I'm wondering if there's
any point worrying about the relatively short 1 metre modem cable that
looks too flat to have any twisted wires within it.

Should I worry or would any gains be insignificant? Currently on FTTC with
Plusnet and I have the newest master socket with adsl modem socket & built
in filters.

Tim

 

"Tim+" wrote in message

Since I've just finished rewiring my under-stairs cupboard for phone &
broadband and installed my new VDSL router/modem, I'm wondering if
there's
any point worrying about the relatively short 1 metre modem cable that
looks too flat to have any twisted wires within it.

Should I worry or would any gains be insignificant? Currently on FTTC
with
Plusnet and I have the newest master socket with adsl modem socket &
built
in filters.

Tim
If you've gone to all that trouble the relatively cheap price of
around £10 will get you a proper RJ11 with solid core and twists,
whether it makes a big difference to your installation, I don't know
but the satisfaction of doing everything right.........Well that's
another thing....

 

Probably not significant over that distance, unless it is next to
something which may be producing interference which you need to screen
it from.
If you have another cable that is twisted, it certainly wouldn't hurt
to use that instead, but I wouldn't go out and spend money on one
unless I detected a problem (high error rates or low speeds).

What VDSL modem/router is it?
If your under-stairs cupboard is small, you may want to keep an eye on
temperatures in there, as they don't usually have any ventilation at
all. Don't worry about that if it's a Billion 8800NL unless it's a
very tiny space, as they run very cool (and therefore efficient).

 

Kráftéé any chance you could stop using a long row of great-than symbols
in your posts? It creates a complete mess in Thunderbird.

 

It renders fine in Emacs/Gnus.

 

What is it? In the OP it shows as an solid line. I'm using an old
Free Agent, pure ASCII text. If I reply to the message I cannot
delete the line nor get underneath it. I don't even know how it
displays in my reader at all.

I assume Kráftéé's reader interprets it as rt-angle-bracket which
is what I see in his response.

 

In Thunderbird a long row of greater-than signs renders as such:
http://tinyurl.com/qhu34kd

 

It's because he uses the dreaded Windows Live Mail - better to just delete
anything written with that abomination at source.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

I take long walks in the morning - before my brain works out what I'm
doing!

 

As far as I know, even Windows Live Mail does not start every usenet
message with 74 greater-than symbols! Of course Thunderbird is
interpreting it as something that has been quoted 74 times, hence the
interesting picture I posted previously.

 

Yes, but the users do know it doesn't do quoting properly, so they
improvise a form of separators ...

 

Oh right, yes. I suppose 74 underscores might be more appropriate.

 

Of course, you are correct. But the necessity to add something as a
delimiter is a problem caused by WLM's total unsuitability for use in
newsgroups. His choice of a long string of those symbols is, equally
obviously, his own. Here it just shows as a string of symbols as intended,
because I have those dreadful graphical quoting bars that Thunderbird uses
suppressed with Quote Colors extension.

The point I was making is that, to save endless hassle, it is a lot better
to just delete anything written with WLM than to faff around with the
problem.

 

Live Mail Quotefix will solve the problem.

 

Yep. If Microsoft couldn't be bothered to add quotation support to
Windows Live Mail's Usenet facility they should have dropped Usenet
support altogether.

 

Why bother, IFAIK WLM is not part of any OS, it's part of a separate
package you have to download, so, instead of doing that, and applying
a patch (that I suspect wont work properly), why not download a free
product that works out-of-the-box like TB?

 

That's clearly part of Googlesoft's plan to kill Usenet.

 

"Graham." wrote in message

Why bother, IFAIK WLM is not part of any OS, it's part of a separate
package you have to download, so, instead of doing that, and applying
a patch (that I suspect wont work properly), why not download a free
product that works out-of-the-box like TB?

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The fix doesn't work (in Win 10 on WLM 2012) and believe it or not I
haven't found one 'reader' which does things the way I want so I stick
with the devil I know.

 

At least the underscores are preferable to the chevrons

 

"Andy Burns" wrote in message

At least the underscores are preferable to the chevrons

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Why blame others for the way your newsreader works.

Seeing this is not a HTML/Graphical news group why do you allow your
newsreader to change text to graphics?

 

As I posted earlier I have afaik a pure text reader (FreeAgent
v1.21/32). I get a solid black line which I cannot delete or get
around when I try to reply. I still don't know what it is and why it
displays as it does and why it is non-editable/deletable.

I've tried a hexdump of the data file but as it contains data elements
as well I haven't the patience to isolate the culprit's hex codes.