Looking for decent wireless/adsl/modem/router

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by TonyC, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. TonyC

    TonyC Guest

    Hi folks,

    I'm currently using a D-Link DSL-G604T (ADSL/Wireless/Modem/Router), I'm
    plugged in using ethernet cable downstairs, and 2 PC's upstairs are wireless
    using D-Link USB dongles. But I hate this router with a passion, eMule
    seems to kill it and the wireless connections drop and wont reconnect at
    least once every 24hours, then I have to unplug power to the router it to
    get it working again.

    I'm looking for a similar alternative, that won't fall flat on it's face
    when using eMule. I'll spend upto £70 for the right bit of kit. The
    Netgear DG834G seems to fit the bill. Any wise words you good people can
    offer me?

    Many thanks.

    TonyC, Nov 22, 2006
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  2. that my DG834G dropped the WAN connection and needed power-cycling every
    couple of days is why I replaced it with a Draytek - they're not cheap
    though :-/
    dave @ stejonda, Nov 22, 2006
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  3. TonyC

    Paul R Guest

    I have installed about 8 Netgear DG834G - and haven't had a single
    problem - very easy to install and manage.

    Paul R, Nov 22, 2006
  4. TonyC

    Sparks Guest

    DG834GT here, no problems at all, been up for over a month without a reboot,
    I use torrents and shareaza quite a bit, never killed it!

    I have only had to power cycle it a few times, and the was pointless, as it
    was my ISP's fault.

    Sparks, Nov 23, 2006
  5. TonyC

    NoNeedToKnow Guest

    There have been reports in the past about a number of routers, especially
    the Netgear models, failing if they are being used with file sharing s/w.

    Of the 8 you have installed, how many are being used for 24x7 file sharing
    with s/w like BitTorrent or whatever? No problem for general surfing etc.
    but as another poster pointed out, it was a problem for him and he's now
    using a Draytek. When I saw the original post I decided to hold off my
    comment that "70 pounds" and "running smoothly with file sharing" will
    be an incompatible combination.
    NoNeedToKnow, Nov 23, 2006
  6. TonyC

    NoNeedToKnow Guest

    Which one (please) and what did they do / not do ?
    NoNeedToKnow, Nov 23, 2006
  7. TonyC

    Sparks Guest

    It was UKOnline - but the outage was only for about 15 minutes, at 1am - I
    guess either them or BT were doing something in the exchange - I am more
    then happy with the service I receive from UKOnline.

    Sparks, Nov 23, 2006
  8. TonyC

    NoNeedToKnow Guest

    Ah, one of the lucky s*ds who has access at their exchange, I suppose!
    Shame coverage has not expanded as much as for some other services...
    NoNeedToKnow, Nov 23, 2006
  9. TonyC

    Don Guest

    Netgear DG834G does seem to be quite stable and does have quite a good
    wireless range, but it is not without is bad points.

    The problems I have seen and proven to be DG834G based are as follows:

    1. Does tend to lose the ADSL connection for no apparent reason, but
    putting various other Routers in its place cures the problem.

    2. Will often fail to update Dynamic DNS and waits until the next cycle
    comes around before trying again. This will mean that the Router can be
    non-contactable remotely for hours.

    Don, Nov 23, 2006
  10. TonyC

    TonyC Guest

    There have been reports in the past about a number of routers, especially
    My previous router used to be a cheapo Origo 8400 which was flawless, no
    weird issues at all, eMule certainly never used to kill it. Why would I
    have to spend over £70 to get a router that works, does that mean the the
    sub £70 aren't fit for purpose? I'd spend a little more if it got me
    reliability. Is it a common problem with routers and P2P apps?

    Thanks again.

    TonyC, Nov 23, 2006
  11. I'm not a heavy p2p user (and don't use eMule at all) but the DG834G was
    losing its WAN connection regularly.
    dave @ stejonda, Nov 23, 2006
  12. TonyC

    Don Guest

    Just looked back over the other posts in this topic and now see that you
    like the Draytek gear.

    Me too Dave, I have never ever worked with a bad one yet. Not the most
    stylish but far the most dependable IMHO.

    Don, Nov 23, 2006
  13. TonyC

    Don Guest

    It would be far too a generalisation to say that anything below £70 is going
    to be problematic but it does also seem to be fair to say that you can get
    better gear if you spend a little more. That may seem so obvious in some
    way I know, but the problem we all deal with is that even the sub-seventy
    pound gear is designed and marketed to comply with determined standards.
    You would imagine that compliance to be an assurance of suitability, I know
    I did. Having spent a lot of time around Routers in the past few years I
    can say for certain that a lot of gear is released to market before it is
    ready. Often the product is as stable as a squirrel in a bag of nuts and
    only becomes the reliable product you had hoped for after two or three
    revisions of firmware.

    For what it is worth I would recommend Draytek over anything else I have
    worked with. There are others that surely will be as good or better but
    having used a lot of Netgear, Linksys, D-Link (Yuk) and Safecom gear I would
    never again recommend the stuff. Often the results are quite embaressing.

    It hurts to spend money, I know that all too well, but I also know that the
    feeling of going to bed in the knowledge that my ADSL connection will not
    drop half a dozen times before I wake is a nice warm one and it makes me

    All the best,

    Don, Nov 23, 2006
  14. TonyC

    NoNeedToKnow Guest

    If it works for you, then fine. As it happens, I'm waiting for my Origo to
    come back (not sure if it is the same model). So far I've found the older
    routers to not handle the DSL Max speed very well, at least in throughput
    terms. As suggested, various routers don't seem to cope with eMule (or
    whatever other chosen transfer software is being used) but might also be
    dependent on the settings in place, whether you limit traffic in some way,
    or some characteristics imposed by the ISP). I'm no authority on using the
    various file transfer apps, just commenting, in this case mostly on what I
    have previously read from those whose views I respect, and who have had a
    number of problems, needed to reboot their routers on a daily basis, etc.
    NoNeedToKnow, Nov 23, 2006
  15. TonyC

    NoNeedToKnow Guest

    I cannot say I've been over-worried (*) about there being disconnections
    from time to time (it was a few times a day, while I was using Origo/PTI/
    Safecom and a few others I had lying about). I know these cheaper routers
    work fine for many lighter users, and even not-so-light use, but cannot be
    relied on to the same extent (IMO, not at all) on DSL Max connections.

    So I have swapped a Safecom unit with a client, who has a fixed 500 kbps
    link from the ISP, and who has been connected for weeks now, while I am
    using the Zyxel -el cheapo- 1-port router (under 25 quid) which had been
    supplied, without any problems worth noting (I've routinely streamed audio
    and video and plenty of down loading without noticing any drop or problem).

    So a "warm feeling" might come with buying Draytek, etc, but is certainly
    not confined to users of same :)

    (*) if I had been more concerned I'd have done something about it in the
    first 4 months, whereas an opportunity came up to try the Zyxel (it was
    apparently unwilling to connect on the day when I was visiting my client
    so it came back with me for "testing" :) Knowing it is fairly cheap is
    really just a bonus for me... I'll happily recommend people try it and
    not be too concerned about the cost of that "experiment".
    NoNeedToKnow, Nov 23, 2006
  16. TonyC

    Don Guest

    Probably why I said the following in my post then?

    "There are others that surely will be as good or better"

    Don, Nov 23, 2006
  17. TonyC

    Sparks Guest

    Yes, and it's only 800 meters ish away, currently connected at 19918 kbps /
    764 kbps

    Sparks, Nov 23, 2006
  18. TonyC

    Paul R Guest

    Interesting observation - all the NetGears I have installed have been
    used for computer networking plus http, pop3 and smtp use. I have no
    experience with file sharing.

    Paul R
    Paul R, Nov 24, 2006
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