kids on the internet

Discussion in 'Home Networking' started by SJ, Dec 14, 2004.

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    SJ Guest

    Thanks for the help in setting up the network, its a NTL connection
    via a router. another question as my daughter will be having a pc
    connected to the net in her bedroom, what is the best way to keep a
    eye on her, i am running xp pro she is running 2000 and the laptop is
    2000, is there any software that can do this for example so i can have
    her screen on my pc, without her knowing this.


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    SJ, Dec 14, 2004
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    bigbrian Guest

    One option is to install something like Norton Internet Security,
    which has a "productivity settings" feature that allows you to set
    parameters as to what applications, what kind of sites, etc users can
    can access. It uses the Windows users setup to enable this.

    A friend of mine uses a wireless gizmo to send the output from his
    daughter's PC to his TV, so that he can switch channels anytime he
    likes and what's on their monitor appears on the TV screen. I think
    its the same time of autosender thing that you can use to send Sky
    from the Sky box to another TV somewhere else in the house, but I'm
    not 100% sure

    Brian
     
    bigbrian, Dec 14, 2004
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    VNC or PC Anywhere will allow you to do this

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    Bernard Peek Guest

    VNC usually shows that someone is connected.
     
    Bernard Peek, Dec 14, 2004
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    Graham Guest

    I am doing that very thing as I am typing this.
    I use Remote Administrator (aka Radmin) from
    http://www.famatech.com/

    I have my Sons computer in the top left of my screen and a computer in my
    workplace on the right.
    There is a taskbar icon on the 'victims' computer but there is an option to
    hide it.

    Like the other applications already mentioned, not only can you view the
    screens remotely you can also elect to take control of the remote machines
    mouse and keyboard.
    If you have a Broadband connection you can work on a machine on the other
    side of the world as if you are sitting in front it.

    Graham.

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    Graham, Dec 15, 2004
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    Rob Morley Guest

    To hide the TightVNC server create this registry entry

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORL\WinVNC3]
    "DisableTrayIcon"=dword:00000001

    To run it on startup create this registry entry

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
    "WinVNC"=""
    "WVNC"="C:\\Program Files\\TightVnc\\winvnc.exe"


    In the server properties:
    disable "Query console on incoming connections"
    set "Disable remote keyboard and pointer"

    Voila - stealth monitoring a la VNC.
     
    Rob Morley, Dec 15, 2004
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  7. Thanks for the tip.

    I've just d/l'd it - It looks to be a perfect for me as well. My situation is school
    based - as well as having to teach, I need to look after the school network, which
    often involves running from my class to do a "show me how" for another teacher or the
    Head. I reckon this would save me some legwork!

    I'll set it up tomorrow for a trial.


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    Andrew Sayers, Dec 15, 2004
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    Lurch Guest

    It is a good piece of software, much better than VNC, it actually
    works in near-real time. Alas, it costs though.
    I'm using now but I don't know what I'll do when the trial runs out. I
    use it on quite a few sites but only for one or two machines at a time
    but I can't get my head around the licensing scheme.
     
    Lurch, Dec 15, 2004
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  9. Yeah it does seem a bit odd. I'm thinking at the moment just setting it up on each
    teacher's machine and the Head's, but it would be a great way of demonstrating to the
    children how to do various tasks. We've got 6 machines in each classroom, so the
    teacher could (if my theory works!), do a teaching demo, let the children get on with
    the task and intervene where needed.

    Trouble is as you say the cost. $35 a licence isn't too bad at current exchange
    rates, but it mounts up when you're looking at 40 odd machines.



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    Andrew Sayers, Dec 15, 2004
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    Ernest Bilko Guest

    It might be an idea to also use a filtering local proxy to take the
    garbage out before get gets to her browser. Proxomitron can do this .
     
    Ernest Bilko, Dec 16, 2004
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    Katie Guest

    This newsgroup is very useful for schools it

    uk.education.schools-it

    You maybe able to purchase licenses at disocunted rates or educational
    licenses, who is your supplier? i.e. RM etc

    What is your current setup? peer to peer, client/server etc?
     
    Katie, Dec 18, 2004
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    Rob Morley Guest

    So why not try VNC first? It will cost nothing but your time. Make
    sure you tweak it, rather than just runing the default settings, before
    passing judgement. And if you don't get on with one variant try some of
    the others.
     
    Rob Morley, Dec 18, 2004
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    Katie Guest

    If you have RM they have software called RM Tutor, this allows to to send
    files over to individual users, lock keyboards and mice when your
    explaining,. give demonstations to all users etc..
    http://www.rm.com/FE/Products/Product.asp?cref=PD96971

    There is also NetOP special; software for schools to:
    http://www.netop.com/netop-8.htm

    But VNC also does the job just as well.

    Like is said try the schools-it newsgroup, it aimed at technical support
    staff, and they will be able to help you very much. You could also ask your
    local LEA ICT Dept for advice.

    Post some details on your setup and i will see what i can find.
     
    Katie, Dec 18, 2004
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  14. Thanks to both for the replies.


    I've not had a chance to try either yet, as on arriving in school on Friday we had a
    power cut! (The best laid plans!)

    Anyway now that Christmas productions are over I can get down to sorting this out.

    I'm intending to trial VNC in one classroom and try the Radmin 30 day trial too from
    my machine to the mail server, head's machine and AV server.

    Essentially we have 6 machines in each classroom running either WinXP (or the older
    machines running Win98 until we can afford to finish the upgrades). There is the
    office/head's machines, a mail server collecting and scanning email to be picked up
    by users, and a machine acting as an AV server running NOD32 which servers AV updates
    to each machine on the network.

    Each classroom is an independent workgroup, with children's files hosted on one
    machine that also acts as a file server. These are all peer-to-peer.

    So, as well as teaching I run the network, attempt to keep everything up and running,
    sort out problems and do repairs.

    We run independantly of the LEA's setup, simply using them as an ISP so that we can
    have filtered web access for the children.

    I'll try some of your links Katie over the holidays, thanks they look useful.

    I may need to come back for advice on VNC Rob, I'll let your know if/when I get
    stuck.

    Thanks for the help



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    Andrew Sayers, Dec 20, 2004
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    Katie Guest

    No problem Andrew, i would really recommend you subscribe to the schools-it
    newsgroup and even look through the archives, there was a debate not so long
    ago on remote control software for in the classroom.

    If you ever have any problems and cant fix it post it there!

    So dont you have a dedicated technician or support from your supplier, maybe
    when you get funding next think about upgrading the network so all machines
    are on one network with a domain, RM is expensive but some of the tools are
    very good and you can also purchase support contracts.

    If each classroom is on its own workgroup this is very time consuming, i.e.
    installing software onto each individual machine, with domain/server
    environment it can all be done in one go.

    And for the powercut, Do you have UPS lol?

    Is managing the schools ICT systems in your job description :).
     
    Katie, Dec 20, 2004
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