Is there any way to get broadband without a phone?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by MM, Mar 28, 2007.

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    MM Guest

    I'm thinking satellite here. Dumping the phone altogether. Possible?

    MM, Mar 28, 2007
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    Prime Guest

    Yes, depending on your post code, you could use

    you can have broadband from £10 per month
    you can get up and running within 24 hours
    you can try wireless broadband for 30 days, risk-free
    you can enjoy free customer service 7 days a week

    Both my In-laws and a mate of mine have used them for over a year, and never
    had to call C/S

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    Jim Howes Guest

    Satellite-delivered broadband tends to be one-way only, with the uplink being
    telephone based (dialup or ISDN)

    However, two-way satellite systems are available, but are considerably more
    expensive than ADSL. Typical speeds are 2048k down, 1024k up.

    You are looking at over £1000 for setup, and around £60/month for service charges.

    If you can get _ANY_ ADSL in your area, for that money you get better throughput
    with multiple lines and routers, and some load balancing/bonding by your ISP
    Jim Howes, Mar 28, 2007
  4. And you can't get it if you are near an airport as the installation requires
    a licence as its a radio transmitter, the companies that supply sattelite
    have to apply to the CAA for permission if you are near an airport and they
    generally say no.
    I know because I tried a few years ago.
    Gordon Hudson, Mar 28, 2007
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    SJP Guest

    Is Virginmedia available in your area ?
    Whats your postcode?
    SJP, Mar 28, 2007
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    Prime Guest

    You need to order a Telephone line at the same time..

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    SJP Guest

    Not if you are in a cable area you don't
    I had ntl broadband without TV and phone unless they've changed the rules
    SJP, Mar 28, 2007
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    Paul Cummins Guest

    Paul Cummins, Mar 28, 2007
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    tinnews Guest

    .... and as I understand it not very nice for interactive use (i.e.
    where you are typing and characters are being echoed back from the
    tinnews, Mar 28, 2007
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    dennis@home Guest

    I had cable internet for years without a phone or TV.
    dennis@home, Mar 28, 2007
  11. I don't have a telephone line and I am with VirginMedia, even today you
    don't need a phone line. Two people I know have signed up recently
    neither wanted the poor value phone line, and they don't have to take
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}, Mar 28, 2007
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    bob Guest

    It's not just interactive protocols like telnet/ssh, latency is just as
    important as bandwidth for the perceived speed of websites.
    bob, Mar 29, 2007
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    dennis@home Guest

    The sat link adds about 400 mS in each direction due to the speed of light
    and the 50,000 mile round trip.
    So every connection will take about 1 second.
    Once the connection is open throughput is limited by the window size (how
    much data can be in transit at the same time).
    You can make the window size larger but it can be a problem if you have a
    poor link that loses packets.
    You can also make the number of simultaneous connections higher so that the
    whole web page arrives after about one second rather than the body after one
    second and then four pictures after one second followed by another four
    pictures, etc.

    I would say that the best sat link is probably worse than most ADSL links
    If you are out in the sticks I would say setting up a WiFi network to chain
    several hamlets together is better than sat.
    dennis@home, Mar 29, 2007
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    MM Guest

    Ah, we do have broadband now. The exchange was enabled in April and I
    have yet to convert from dial-up (the delay partly due to the bad
    vibes I get from the BB companies). But I use the BT landline phone
    very little indeed, apart from it being needed for dial-up, and am
    paying the extortionate line rental fee. I bought 15 quid's worth of
    PAYG airtime for my Virgin mobile phone about 18 months ago and I've
    still got about 13 quid's worth on it, despite usingit a couple of
    times in Germany. So I thought, why am I in hock to BT at all? Why not
    just shown them the door and connect my PC independently of any phone

    MM, Mar 29, 2007
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    MM Guest

    Sadly we don't have cable here.

    MM, Mar 29, 2007
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    MM Guest

    You must have cable, then?

    MM, Mar 29, 2007
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    kraftee Guest

    If you want a reasonable, non lag, connection, in the end you'll have
    to either go cable, which as you've said isn't available, or landline,
    whether it's BT or Hull, directly or indirectly you will have to go
    with one...
    kraftee, Mar 29, 2007
  18. Correct.

    Cable service no phone line required.

    With the ADSL service you will need a BT phone line.
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}, Mar 29, 2007
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    Bob Eager Guest

    Because you still need a maintained piece of wire all the way from you
    to the exchange, and the ADSL fee doesn't contrinute to that.

    You may well find that the BT line turns out to be a bargain compared to
    the alternatives!
    Bob Eager, Mar 29, 2007
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    Owain Guest

    Why not, indeed. Any real ISP should be happy to quote for a leased line.

    Owain, Mar 29, 2007
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