How to offer broadband without phone call charges?

I'd like to offer to some young college boys who are sharing their first
flat a DSL Internet connection but without exposing myself to vast phone
call charges. The boys all have their own mobile phones and they say they
don't need any wire line phone service.

What phone service or tariff is available that will provide the needed
copper circuit for DSL but without unlimited exposure to calling charges?

Tony

 

If you have good Three mobile phone coverage, why not go for a Three
payg dongle with a wifi router?
Avoid DSL and the responsibility of a copper wire altogether.

Steve Terry

 

Thanks but four college lads may consume more data than 3's top tier.

I am hoping to provide one of the "unlimited" offers such as O2 or Be etc
or maybe even Sky BB bundled with a Sky+ subscription, which happens to be
what we had provided to one of those four while he was at our home. So I
am hoping there is some way to get a copper pair with limited liability.

BTW how does one connect a USB dongle to the WAN port of a router anyway?

Tony

 

Andrews & Arnold will supply a phone line for "ADSL only" purposes. See:
http://www.aaisp.net.uk/broadband-phoneline.html

To quote: "The line itself is installed by Openreach just like a BT line, on
our behalf. You cannot make any chargable calls, but can call emergency
services and freephone numbers from it as well as accepting calls. We supply
the line primarily for use with the broadband service and do not provide
lines without our broadband service associated with them."

 

Excellent. Many thanks, I will ask BT about the availability of this.

Thank you.

Tony

 

I've been an A&A subscriber since 1993 and they are not now competitive for
retail consumers needing significant daytime usage and who are happy with
NAT and a single IP address.

Tony

 

Put the master socket inside a lockable metal box and run the ADSL cable
out of the box.

Wouldn't stop them splicing into the cable upstram of it though, but...

Outgoing call barring would seem to be the way to go, but it's costs
an extra £2.50 a month and doesn't block international calls made via
an operator!

http://www.productsandservices.bt.c...cId=25504&s_intcid=con_search_KR_call_barring

Gordon

 

Does it need to be DSL? Virgin cable will do 10Mbit broadband-only for 20
quid/month, or less if you take one of their persistent 'introductory'
offers. Or get free TV thrown in too (though I suppose they could rack up
charges on pay-per-view, probably you can disable that).

Theo

 

Thanks for the suggestion.

So long as they don't demand Sky satellite TV, which has the requirement to
provide a working phone line - at least during installation - that may be
another excellent solution.

Tony

 

(none of this). I've lost the first post in this thread...


If you're not sure that you can trust them (or their friends) not to misuse
a phone line, how can you be sure they're not going to misuse an internet
connection which will be (I presume) in your name?

 

Thanks, but I see no mention of that option in Sky TV's Ts&Cs at the foot
of http://packages.sky.com/see/, it baldly "Sky box(es) must be connected
to a fixed telephone line for 12 months". Do you have a pointer to such an
offer that I could mention when trying to place an order?

Tony

 

AFAIK they can misuse the service and equipment in any way they choose to
invent without incurring any financial liability to me. If the service is
cancelled for abuse or AUP reasons then that is actually a savings for me.

Tony

 

We simply connected the router and no phone. In 3 of the four shared
houses, the residents respected that & used their mobiles. In the fourth
house this year one has been a problem, (in more ways than this),
connected a handset and ran up bills. That has been a learning
experience for the others in house in choosing people to live with.

d

 

raisingkids.co.uk is that way ----->

 

Quite possibly, but if you have allocated a ten quid PAYG top up
to two months of 3 PAYG internet (at 5quid p.m.)
there won't be any credit left for 3 to eat up outside inclusive 2gb p/m d/l

If / when that happens, slot in another 3 PAYG sim doing the same.
and swap back the following month

Steve Terry

 

If the master socket is in a lockable metal box, an Orchid dialler can
easily be programmed to block all outgoing except 999. I use one to
block international, premium and calls to operator. Works OK with
ADSL.

 

I nice lady at BT assured me that taking that option will not permit DSL
and so I would need to achieve it with Calling Features and *34(...).

Was she wrong?

Anyway, since barring via Calling Feature will allow 0800 calls, that would
still be compatible with a Sky STB, so that may be the best course anyway.

Tony.

 

I plan to be 4,000 miles away and unavailable to run this SIM disco.

Tony

 

I've helped my lad and his fives mates with a set up.

BT line (in my name) with call barring at a total cost of 15 Quid/month,

The barring is controlled by a PIN that only I know. All 'self dialled'
calls except 0800 etc and 150/151 are barred. As far as reverse charge
calling goes, they don't actually know what the phone number is, and I'm
not sure they could easily find out ? Not that I've seen anybody under
the age of 25 ever use a landline phone There's no landline phone on
the premises, though of course there's nothing to stop them plugging one
in !

ADSL service is O2 LLU unlimited linked to an O2 phone account, so it's
9.79/month

Total cost is therefore just under 25 Quid/m, split between 6 of them,
so less than a fiver each per month. Downstream sync is about 12 Mb/s
and upstream 1.2 Mb/s. Works very well.

I run risks with it obviously, which have all been noted in this thread
but there you go. I keep an eye on the BT line bit via the 'unbilled'
section of the on-line account portal.

Ideal solution would have been Vigin Media, but their street is not
covered,

 

Wonder if you could do that with a mobile locked in a (non-metallic ;-) box,
with some kind of Bluetooth speakerphone on the front which is only set up
to call 999. That means there's no line rental. Once SIMless emergency
calls are enabled, there would be no need to keep making chargeable calls to
keep it alive. Phone battery would mean it'd work when the power was down.

Though I suppose a box labelled 'emergency calls only' on the front would
tempt people to test it...

Theo