How do I convert my second Router into an Access Point

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by schreinerrolf, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. Hi everyone, February 11, 2014

    I would like to use my Sitecom router as an access point. Is this the way to do it?

    I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I have a Ubee UVW-3200 cable Modem/Router.. On port 1, I connect a second Sitecom Wi-Wi Router AC1750 WLR-8100 connected to its WAN port.

    I would like my Sitecom Router to become an Access Point with the same (2.4GHz) SSID as the Ubee Modem/Router, so that I can "roam" throughout the house without losing signal. The 5.0 GHz Wi-Fi of the Sitecom AP should still be useable when within reach.

    Current configuration settings (Sitecom as Router):
    Ubee Router Sitecom Router

    LAN IP adres: 192.168.178.1 192.168.10.1
    DHCP Server: Enabled Enabled
    Ipv4 address: 192.168.178.10 192.168.178.10
    DHCP Status: No DHCP clients Show all clients
    2.4 GHz Radio: Disabled Enabled
    5.0 GHz Radio: N/A Enabled
    2.4 GHz - SSID: Ziggo5C5CC Sitecom0F7FF1
    2.4 GHz channel: Disabled Automatic
    5.0 GHz channel: N/A Automatic
    2.4 GHz security: WPA+PSK WPA+PSK
    2.4 GHz password Ubee's own PW Sitecom's own PW
    5.0 GHz - SSID: N/A Sitecom0F7FF2
    5.0 GHz security: N/A WPA+PSK
    5.0 GHz password: N/A Sitecom's own PW
    Network connection: LAN Port 1 WAN Port

    Proposed configuration settings (Sitecom as Access Point):
    Ubee Router Sitecom Access Point

    LAN IP address: 192.168.178.1 192.168.178.2
    DHCP Server: Enabled Disabled
    Ipv4 address: 192.168.178.10 N/A
    DHCP Status: Show all clients N/A
    2.4 GHz Radio: Enabled Enabled
    5.0 GHz Radio: N/A Enabled
    2.4 GHz - SSID: Ziggo5C5CC Ziggo5C5CC
    2.4 GHz channel: 1, 6, 11, or Auto 1, 6, 11, or Auto
    5.0 GHz channel: N/A Automatic
    2.4 GHz security: WPA+PSK WPA+PSK
    2.4 GHz - password: Ubee's own PW Ubee's own PW
    5.0 GHz SSID: N/A Sitecom0F7FF2
    5.0 GHz security: N/A WPA+PSK
    5.0 GHz password N/A Sitecom's own PW
    Network connection: LAN Port 1 LAN Port 1

    Questions:
    1. Will this configuration work as intended?
    2. Can I have the same 2.4 GHz SSID (Ziggo5C5CC) on my Ubee Router and my Sitecom AP?
    3. Will I still have cabled internet on my Sitecom AP?
    4. Will I still have Wi-Fi internet on 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz of my Sitecom AP?
    5. With its DHCP disabled, can I still acces the Sitecom AP configuration page through my PC browser when using the Windows 7 TCP/IPv4 configuration of "obtaining an IP address automatically", or do I have to use the Windows 7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of "use the following IP address:", and enter the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2?

    If I do not do things right, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Many Thanks,

    Rolf Schreiner
     
    schreinerrolf, Feb 11, 2014
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  2. schreinerrolf

    Jim Guest

    Surely easier to use an wifi range-extender like
    the TP-Link WA850RE or WA750RE. Neat wallwart
    construction and they only cost a few pounds.

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  3. schreinerrolf

    Woody Guest


    Ah, but they don't always work.

    My router is in the next room two plugs and about 3m from
    here on the same ring, but in between sits the fuseboard
    with the meter on the other side of it and no way will mains
    signalling work. If I plug in to the other socket in this
    room which is the other side of the fuseboard it works
    perfectly.

    Be warned.
     
    Woody, Feb 23, 2014
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  4. schreinerrolf

    Andy Burns Guest

    What's powerline got to do with it? The WA*50RE devices are like a WiFi
    bridge they receive on one channel and re-transit on another.
     
    Andy Burns, Feb 23, 2014
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  5. You can turn spare BT Hubs into switches / wi-fi access point by


    1. Change the IP address (to 192.168.1.nnn)

    2. Disbale the routing function.

    3. Connect it to the router in use.


    Hi everyone, February 11, 2014

    I would like to use my Sitecom router as an access point. Is this the way to
    do it?

    I am using Windows 7 Ultimate and I have a Ubee UVW-3200 cable Modem/Router.
    On port 1, I connect a second Sitecom Wi-Wi Router AC1750 WLR-8100 connected
    to its WAN port.

    I would like my Sitecom Router to become an Access Point with the same (2.4
    GHz) SSID as the Ubee Modem/Router, so that I can "roam" throughout the
    house without losing signal. The 5.0 GHz Wi-Fi of the Sitecom AP should
    still be useable when within reach.

    Current configuration settings (Sitecom as Router):
    Ubee Router Sitecom Router

    LAN IP adres: 192.168.178.1 192.168.10.1
    DHCP Server: Enabled Enabled
    Ipv4 address: 192.168.178.10 192.168.178.10
    DHCP Status: No DHCP clients Show all clients
    2.4 GHz Radio: Disabled Enabled
    5.0 GHz Radio: N/A Enabled
    2.4 GHz - SSID: Ziggo5C5CC Sitecom0F7FF1
    2.4 GHz channel: Disabled Automatic
    5.0 GHz channel: N/A Automatic
    2.4 GHz security: WPA+PSK WPA+PSK
    2.4 GHz password Ubee's own PW Sitecom's own PW
    5.0 GHz - SSID: N/A Sitecom0F7FF2
    5.0 GHz security: N/A WPA+PSK
    5.0 GHz password: N/A Sitecom's own PW
    Network connection: LAN Port 1 WAN Port

    Proposed configuration settings (Sitecom as Access Point):
    Ubee Router Sitecom Access Point

    LAN IP address: 192.168.178.1 192.168.178.2
    DHCP Server: Enabled Disabled
    Ipv4 address: 192.168.178.10 N/A
    DHCP Status: Show all clients N/A
    2.4 GHz Radio: Enabled Enabled
    5.0 GHz Radio: N/A Enabled
    2.4 GHz - SSID: Ziggo5C5CC Ziggo5C5CC
    2.4 GHz channel: 1, 6, 11, or Auto 1, 6, 11, or Auto
    5.0 GHz channel: N/A Automatic
    2.4 GHz security: WPA+PSK WPA+PSK
    2.4 GHz - password: Ubee's own PW Ubee's own PW
    5.0 GHz SSID: N/A Sitecom0F7FF2
    5.0 GHz security: N/A WPA+PSK
    5.0 GHz password N/A Sitecom's own PW
    Network connection: LAN Port 1 LAN Port 1

    Questions:
    1. Will this configuration work as intended?
    2. Can I have the same 2.4 GHz SSID (Ziggo5C5CC) on my Ubee Router and my
    Sitecom AP?
    3. Will I still have cabled internet on my Sitecom AP?
    4. Will I still have Wi-Fi internet on 2.4GHz and 5.0 GHz of my Sitecom AP?
    5. With its DHCP disabled, can I still acces the Sitecom AP configuration
    page through my PC browser when using the Windows 7 TCP/IPv4 configuration
    of "obtaining an IP address automatically", or do I have to use the Windows
    7 PC TCP/Ipv4 configuration of "use the following IP address:", and enter
    the new Sitecom LAN IP address of: 192.168.178.2?

    If I do not do things right, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Many Thanks,

    Rolf Schreiner
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Feb 23, 2014
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  6. Wireless to wireless range extenders do work, but you get half speed.
    If it's feasible to run an ethernet cable (or powerline link) to where
    you want the second wireless point, that's a better way to do it.

    Rod.
     
    Roderick Stewart, Feb 23, 2014
    #6
  7. schreinerrolf

    Ian Jackson Guest

    As I understand it, range extenders time share between receive and
    transmit on the same channel - hence the speed reduction.
     
    Ian Jackson, Feb 24, 2014
    #7
  8. schreinerrolf

    Jim Guest

    I'm delighted to hear it. As a user of HF radio
    I detest these RF polluters.

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    Jim, Feb 27, 2014
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  9. schreinerrolf

    Jim Guest

    Retransmit on the same channel, surely? Mine does anyway
    as far as I know. This can be a problem where the direct signal
    interferes with the re-transmitted one, so they may require
    careful placement to get the best from them.

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    Jim, Feb 27, 2014
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  10. schreinerrolf

    Graham J Guest

    Don't think it matters whether it is the same channel or another, given
    that the devices normally have only one transmitter; so they can only
    sent one packet at a time.

    So a packet received from a router is retransmitted to the remote
    client; it follows that the arrival time at the remote client is dealyed
    by a further packet time, thus the transmission rate is halved.

    If there were two transmitters, a packet received from the router could
    be retransmitted on channel A, and simultaneously a packet received from
    the client could be retransmitted to the router on (non-overlapping)
    channel B. This full-duplex arrangement ought to double throughput.

    I don't know of any product that advertises this feature.
     
    Graham J, Feb 27, 2014
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  11. schreinerrolf

    Jim Guest

    No, wouldn't matter, but using Inssider to look at my
    2.4 GHz environment, there's only one channel with my
    SSID.
    Mine's a TP-Link TL-WA750RE(UK). If it's using two
    channels it isn't obvious. I don't have a receiver or
    radio scanner that goes up to these frequencies.

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    Jim, Mar 2, 2014
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  12. schreinerrolf

    Jim Guest

    I was incorrect in stating that mine relayed on
    the same channel. I now notice the channel is given
    as 12 + 8 in updated software. Sorry for that.

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    Jim, Mar 4, 2014
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