FTTC Availability Checker

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Steve Crook, Mar 27, 2015.

  1. Steve Crook

    Steve Crook Guest

    Hi all,

    I live in Cornwall and currently enjoy a FTTC broadband service. Two
    of my neighbours have asked me to assist them in upgrading to it from
    ADSL but, to my surprise, the various checkers all indicate it's not
    available to them. We all share the same postcode, exchange and green
    cabinet. Is there a scenario where it's available to some but not
    others?

    My number: 01579 350948 (PL12 6RJ)
    Neighbour1: 01579 350526 (PL12 6RJ)
    Neighbour2: 01579 350322 (PL12 6RJ)

    Steve
     
    Steve Crook, Mar 27, 2015
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    Martin Brown Guest

    There doesn't seem to be a lot of rationality. The farmer who lives
    directly opposite our village's new FTTC enabled green box cannot get
    FTTC because and I quote "he lives on the wrong side of the road".
    His farmhouse is about 30m from the new box.

    Perhaps someone with installer knowledge can enlighten us?

    Any runs longer than from the box 1200m are not worth doing.
     
    Martin Brown, Mar 27, 2015
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    Steve Crook Guest

    Thanks Martin, I'm about 50 Metres from the box and my neighbours very
    slightly further. Out cables all come off the same pole so there's not
    much difference in the distance.
     
    Steve Crook, Mar 27, 2015
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    Ash Burton Guest

    That being the case, it has to be a capacity/connection issue otherwise
    there is no logic to it.

    FTTC is avaialble to me but at half the speed of my ADSL so i haven't
    bothered with it.

    --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
     
    Ash Burton, Mar 27, 2015
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    Steve Crook Guest

    You're right, it is a capacity issue (at the exchange). Someone helpful
    at Samknows pointed me to:
    http://www.superfast-openreach.co.uk/where-and-when/

    I show as able to get Superfast because I've already got it. Hence no
    extra load on the exchange. If only the checkers made that clearer.
    The Cornwall Superfast checker just says they live in the 5% of Cornwall
    that will never get it.
     
    Steve Crook, Mar 27, 2015
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    Richard_CC Guest

    I had the same curious situation here in Cambridgeshire, new box enabled
    10 March, confirmed by checker. A week or so later, on point of
    ordering, I ran checker again - no FTTC. I contacted "Connecting
    Cambridgeshire" who are funding the rollout, they said "that's odd
    .....we will prod Openreach and find out"

    The next day I ran the checker and it was all back again. Placed an
    order that day. I saw an Openreach van by the box between the 2 checks,
    so maybe a temporary fault. I wonder if the checker runs off a database
    or real time, and if the former how often it is updated?

    I suggest you try again in a day or two, and/or contact
    superfastcornwall.org - they are funding the rural installation and if
    they are anything like their Cambridge counterparts they are very helpful.

    I've just seen the later post suggesting a capacity issue. If that is
    the case, they should get on to superfast Cornwall and say you have had
    buckets full of public money (central Govt. and county council) to do
    this so why not enough capacity.
     
    Richard_CC, Mar 27, 2015
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    David Guest

    Superfast what does it imply? ( to me a lot more than my 30 Mb)

    Your above checker says I'm in a fibre area now. Is that what they
    think Superfast?
    Maximum is 30 Mb that I can have.
    They charge it as up to 76 Mb if one is daft enough, I pay for up to 38
    Mb as both prices are same speed of 30 Mb.

    So if this is Superfast what will the future 100 mb be called by them?
    Regards
    David
     
    David, Mar 27, 2015
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    Davey Guest

    My area is one of the:
    "Enabled area Your area is enabled for Superfast Fibre but your
    cabinet is not ready yet so you can't place an order today. It is in
    our plans to be upgraded and we update this info weekly, so please
    check back later. "

    Nothing has change physically since they installed the cabinets last
    year, so this is just a load of hogwash. The only part that's right is
    that I can't place an order today (or tomorrow, or the following day,
    etc etc.).
     
    Davey, Mar 27, 2015
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  9. I know someone who had the same problem. Eventually it just turned out
    to be a mistake.

    -- Richard
     
    Richard Tobin, Mar 27, 2015
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    Bob Eager Guest

    I'm at 1300m and I still get over double the old ADSL speed down (and
    about double the up speed too).
     
    Bob Eager, Mar 27, 2015
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    Davey Guest

    And Suffolk Broadband says "by 2015 September", a full year after BT's
    original date.
     
    Davey, Mar 27, 2015
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  12. Supercalifragilisticexpialidociousfast.

    Rod.
     
    Roderick Stewart, Mar 27, 2015
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    Richard_CC Guest

    As BT call 76 "Infinity", the next one surely must be "And Beyond"
     
    Richard_CC, Mar 27, 2015
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    Andy Burns Guest

    superfast is defined as faster than 24Mbps by BDUK.
     
    Andy Burns, Mar 27, 2015
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    Ash Burton Guest

    You are indeed fortunate in that case.

    --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---
     
    Ash Burton, Mar 27, 2015
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  16. [/QUOTE]
    Most of the graphs of VDSL2 vs ADSL 2+ I've seen show VDSL to be as
    fast as ADSL even at long distances, so if you are connected to a
    cabinet you are likely to see an improvement with FTTC just because
    the distance is less, even though VDSL may be no better than ADSL at
    that distance.

    -- Richard
     
    Richard Tobin, Mar 27, 2015
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    Bob Eager Guest

    Most of the graphs of VDSL2 vs ADSL 2+ I've seen show VDSL to be as fast
    as ADSL even at long distances, so if you are connected to a cabinet you
    are likely to see an improvement with FTTC just because the distance is
    less, even though VDSL may be no better than ADSL at that distance.[/QUOTE]

    Of course. The win is in the rest of the run to the exchange (about
    another 4000m).

    The really annoying thing is that this is a terrace of three, and I'm in
    the middle house. Next door is on a different (much nearer) cabinet.
     
    Bob Eager, Mar 27, 2015
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    Phil W Lee Guest

    And if it's run out of capacity that quickly, then surely any subsidy
    must have been fraudulently obtained, because that exchange/cabinet
    clearly IS commercially viable.
     
    Phil W Lee, Mar 28, 2015
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    Phil W Lee Guest

    Why not pay for their broadband (or split the cost between you), and
    chuck a cable over the fence/through the wall?
     
    Phil W Lee, Mar 28, 2015
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    Bob Eager Guest

    It's a rather 'interesting' household....
     
    Bob Eager, Mar 28, 2015
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