Fibre Broadband speeds

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Bill Ward, Oct 24, 2015.

  1. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    A Newbie question. With speeds available of up to 38Mbs or 76Mbs at
    different prices how do the companies control the customers download
    speeds. When BT offer a guaranteed minimum of 40Mbs to a customer that
    must be for a 76Mbs customer so what would the 38mbs user get?
    Bill
     
    Bill Ward, Oct 24, 2015
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    Brian Mc Guest

    : A Newbie question. With speeds available of up to 38Mbs or 76Mbs at
    : different prices how do the companies control the customers download
    : speeds. When BT offer a guaranteed minimum of 40Mbs to a customer that
    : must be for a 76Mbs customer so what would the 38mbs user get?

    As you say there are two MAXIMUM speeds available - 38 and 76Mbs -
    these were sometime called 40 and 80 Mbs in the early days but ISPs
    seem to have settled down to using the "honest" speeds.

    Note these are MAXIMUM speeds and your distance from the Green "FTTC box"
    - which will be very near the junction box your house is connected to -
    cuts these epeeds down. I am several 100 metres from my box - my
    maximum speed is about 37 Mbs and it would be pointless for me to buy
    anything but a 38Mbps service!

    Openreach control the segment back to the exchange - no matter who the
    ISP is - and I would guess it is their equipment which limits the
    speed if someone who COULD get 78Mbs buys a "38 service"
     
    Brian Mc, Oct 24, 2015
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  3. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    So you can only get 37 Mbs but would your ISP tell you that if you
    placed an order for 76Mbs?
    Doing a line test with ZEN it says that I could get 45.3.
    With BT it says a guaranteed minimum of 35 Mbs or could get 45-66.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Oct 24, 2015
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  4. Bill Ward

    Brian Mc Guest

    : So you can only get 37 Mbs but would your ISP tell you that if you
    : placed an order for 76Mbs?
    : Doing a line test with ZEN it says that I could get 45.3.
    : With BT it says a guaranteed minimum of 35 Mbs or could get 45-66.
    : Bill.

    The reality is not going to vary between providers! I think they all
    MUST quote the Openreach speed projections but I do not know if they
    are forced to refuse a 76Mbps order for line for which it is clear
    that it will not go much higher than 35-40!

    For mine it was very clear that 38Mbps was the only sensible one to
    order!
     
    Brian Mc, Oct 24, 2015
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  5. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    So paying extra will only get you about 30% more.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Oct 25, 2015
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    Davey Guest

    As a non-professional, it might be worth adding here my neighbour's
    experience, which has been echoed by others. She reports that her
    usage, which is similar to mine, i.e. surfing, e-mail, occasional
    BBC download, etc, does not show any significant improvement, whereas
    her kids, using online gaming and video streaming, report considerably
    better results.
    Just a thought to chew on.

    I have always found Zen a very good and responsive company.
     
    Davey, Oct 25, 2015
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    PeeGee Guest

    There are a few variants, but mostly the line sync is controlled by BT -
    at up to 80/20Mbps, 40/10Mbps or 40/2Mbps, with the maximum down profile
    as 78 or 38. I know Plusnet is different, in that they provisioned
    80/20Mbps connections and set their profile to 40 for a 40/20 connection
    (I get a throughput of 37Mbps and sync at 79.997Mbps), though they now
    use 80/20 and 40/2 and generally do not provide 80/20 if the BT database
    indicates a maximum down less than 40Mbps.

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    PeeGee, Oct 25, 2015
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    Andy Burns Guest

    With at least one ISP you must order the 76Mbps downstream product in
    order to get upstream above 2Mbps, most ISPs provide 20Mbps upstream
    with the 38Mbps downstream product.
     
    Andy Burns, Oct 25, 2015
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  9. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    A girl at ZEN said that with the 76Mbps service I would get around 43.5
    Mbps and would get a guarenteed minimum of 20Mbps with the 38 Mbps
    service and should get the max of 38 Mbps so not worth the extra payment.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Oct 29, 2015
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    Richard_CC Guest

    Are upload speeds important to you? regardless of connection speed, the
    38 service gives you 9.5, the 76 gives you 19. Depends what you are
    doing with it.
     
    Richard_CC, Oct 29, 2015
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  11. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    Upload are not too important. It only gave an estimate of 11.9 for 76.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Oct 29, 2015
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  12. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    Correction, 9.5 for 38 and 19 for 76 Mbps
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Oct 29, 2015
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  13. Bill Ward

    Bill Ward Guest

    On first day with ZEN fibre I am getting 37.4 Mbps download and 9.4 upload.
    Bill.
     
    Bill Ward, Nov 17, 2015
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