Extreme Newbie here

Discussion in 'Windows Networking' started by Humpty, Jun 30, 2003.

  1. Humpty

    Humpty Guest

    Ok ... you've all probably heard this question more than once, but I'm new
    to the group, and to networking. I have a machine runnine 2000 Pro, and the
    other with 98SE. I'm not too sure what protocols I need in 98SE. I have
    two machines that are both running 2000 Pro working well, but this 98SE is
    giving me big ones. Can someone please advise me as to what the problems
    may be.

    Thank you in advance.

    Humpty, Jun 30, 2003
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  2. Humpty

    Humpty Guest

    Could it possibly have to do with a FAT 32 - NTFS issue ? Just a thought.

    Humpty, Jun 30, 2003
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  3. The only protocol you need for a home network is TCP/IP on each machine
    connected to the network. If you could explain what "big ones" means, maybe
    we can help.
    Richard G. Harper, Jun 30, 2003
  4. Humpty

    Humpty Guest

    Thanks for responding Richard. "Big ones" that 98SE refers to big balls, as
    in driving me crazy. I was told by a networker at a local computer shop
    that I need IPX/SPX, and NetBIOS on the 2000, and NetBUI on the 98SE. I
    also have TCP/IP, and Client for Microsoft networks installed on both. Both
    have the same workgroup name, and different computer names.


    Humpty, Jun 30, 2003
  5. All you should have on your network, on any machine, is TCP/IP unless you
    need the other protocols. In fact loading unneeded protocols on a 9x box is
    one of the surest ways to get your things "big", all right. :)

    Try unloading all protocols from the Windows 98 box except for TCP/IP, then
    reboot the box and see what you can see. If the answer is still 'nothing' -
    try pinging one of the Windows 2000 boxes by name and by IP address. Which
    one succeeds, or do both?
    Richard G. Harper, Jun 30, 2003
  6. Humpty

    Humpty Guest

    Ok thanks Richard ... I'll try that tonight. What protocols should I have
    installed on the 2000 Pro box ?

    Humpty, Jul 1, 2003
  7. Same thing. Only TCP/IP unless you need the other protocols for some
    reason. For now I'm betting you don't.
    Richard G. Harper, Jul 1, 2003
  8. Do you have any firewall software installed on either of the PCs? Does the
    ping fail both by name and IP address?
    Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x], Jul 1, 2003
  9. Humpty

    Humpty Guest

    Richard ... I have ZAP installed on the 2000 Pro machine, and nothing on the
    98. Now, being an extreme newbie, when you say "ping by name", can you
    please elaborate on that as I'm not too sure what you mean by "name".

    I sure appreciate you taking the time to help me. Thank you very much.


    P.S. - does having FAT32 on one and NTFS on the other make any difference ?
    Humpty, Jul 1, 2003
  10. Humpty

    Humpty Guest

    Richard ... firewall was the answer. Again, thank you for all your help.

    Humpty, Jul 1, 2003
  11. Glad to have been of service. I see James got your other question so that's
    cool too.

    Regarding pinging - there are two ways to ping a PC. One is by its IP
    address (on a private network it's probably 192.168.1.x where the "x" will
    vary). The other is by the computer's name that you gave it when you set it

    As a simple example, let's assume you have a router at address
    that's assigning IP addresses to your PCs. You have one PC named "PC1" that
    has the address assigned by the router and one named "PC2" that
    has the address assigned to it.

    To test connections between the two PCs you ping them first by the IP
    address - from PC1 to test your connection to PC2 you'd open an MS-DOS
    window type:


    If that works, the next thing to try, while still in that DOS window, is to

    ping PC2

    If both ping tests work your PCs are seeing each other on the network just
    fine. If you can ping by IP address but not by name then the network
    connection is fine but you have a problem with the network configuration -
    workgroup names wrong or some other essential configuration problem. If you
    can't ping by either IP address or name your network is not working at all
    in at least one direction.
    Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x], Jul 1, 2003
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