Don't understand bandwidth

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by sniper, Aug 12, 2004.

  1. sniper

    sniper Guest

    My daughter wants to change her provider (small unheard of local company)
    but doesn't want to pay much more than the 16.99 a month she's paying now.
    PlusNet offer packages from 14.99 dependant on bandwidth. the 14.99 package
    comes with 1GB per month going up to 5GB for an extra £6. But what does that
    actually MEAN? She's out at work all day so only uses it a weekend and in
    the evenings and just uses it for email, online banking and various shopping
    sites. she doesn't download music or films or games but she does tend to
    just leave it on when she's in. How much bandwidth is she likely to need?
    sniper, Aug 12, 2004
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  2. sniper

    Sunil Sood Guest

    1GB/month sounds like it will be fine for your daughters use

    Just leaving a computer on/connected but "inactive" does not use much

    You can confirm this by installing a program such as
    for a month - it measures the amount of bandwidth used and you can use it
    for free with 30 days.

    Sunil Sood, Aug 12, 2004
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  3. sniper

    Dominic Guest

    Just leaving it on doesn't use bandwidth. Bandwidth is a measure of the
    amount of data transferred e.g. downloading a web site to your computer
    transfers that amount of data to your machine.

    If your daughter is not downloading large files, and does not do things like
    listen to internet radio stations etc., it is unlikely she will use more
    than 1GB in a month.

    Out of mere curiousity, why does she want to change providers?

    Dominic, Aug 12, 2004
  4. sniper

    sniper Guest

    Thank you.
    It's because the current one (Eastserve - a wireless local community ISP
    based in East Manchester) is down more than it's up and support is non
    sniper, Aug 12, 2004
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    GwG Guest

    Have a look at prices start from £11.75 per month,
    this gives 200Mb per month, which is not a lot, after 200Mb, you pay
    extra for what you use, but costs for additional Mb's are very
    reasonable, and for a low usage user, it seems ideal.
    There is no email account included in the package, so this must be taken
    into consideration.
    GwG, Aug 12, 2004
  6. sniper

    dave.r Guest

    Bandwidth is a measure of the
    bandwidth is a measure of the capacity of your link - eg 512Kbps - the 512
    Kilobits per second is the bandwidth.
    some isps impose restrictions on the amount of data they will allow you to
    download on a monthly basis but that is not affected by bandwidth.
    dave.r, Aug 12, 2004
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    Dominic Guest

    No, in this context, bandwidth is the amount of data that can be transferred
    in one month. Strictly speaking, bandwidth is the allocation of frequencies
    on the cable, but that is irrelevant to the OP's question, as is your post.

    Dominic, Aug 12, 2004
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    Dave Stanton Guest

    But you can use any existing email accounts you have and you get smtp to
    send mail. I have been on Metronet for almost 12 months and my average
    bill is around £16 a month. I don't game though.
    Usual Disclaimer

    Dave Stanton, Aug 12, 2004
  9. I think the expression you're all searching for is 'usage cap'.
    Brian Morrison, Aug 12, 2004
  10. sniper

    poster Guest

    Indeed ! MetroNet seems ideal for this particular case and has
    (see <> ) a free
    firewall option to reduce the possibility of an attack (I would
    recommend "Block commonly abused ports" for almost anyone) but
    additionally, rather than using the cheapest USB modem, using
    a budget router (as well as having a firewall - I hope there
    is already one in place on the daughter's PC) would give yet
    another ring of security (in case the MetroNet firewall is at
    any time inactive, because of config problem or whatever).

    MetroNet is used by a couple of my clients and both are happy
    (I have to admit I don't know whether they#re using the firewall
    from MetroNet but both have s/w firewalls on their kit anyway).
    poster, Aug 13, 2004
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    Black Shuck Guest

    It's worth bearing in mind, that with most packaged, if you go over the
    monthly download allowance, you pay a small surcharge, UPTO to the price
    of the full unmetered package. So I would just opt of the cheap £14.99
    package and see how it goes...
    Black Shuck, Aug 13, 2004
  12. sniper

    poster Guest

    If you opt for the 14.99 PlusNet package but use 4.5 GB the extra 4 GB cost
    7.60 (4 x 1.90) whereas 7.00 is the additional fee to reach "Premier" (the
    uncapped option). I doubt PlusNet charges just 21.99 - far more likely a
    customer would be billed for 22.59 in my opinion.

    For the original poster asking what 1 GB means - the PlusNet web site does
    have example usage concerning numbers of e-mail and so on, but much depends
    on *what* people send by e-mail. A while back some people were concerned
    about a PlusNet-imposed limit on how big any mail message could be - they
    wanted to send attachments of over 10 MB (idiots! :) There are better ways
    than encoding a binary in an e-mail - PlusNet allows 250 MB of storage per
    user, so surely much better to upload the attachment then put the URL in
    the e-mail to the person and ask them to let you know when it has been
    downloaded... the recipient does not need to get a 10+ MB mail when
    they are on a 56k dial-up or checking e-mail from a mobile phone, but
    they do get a link to the file so download it when it is convenient.

    For very, very, low usage, MetroNet could work out cheaper, but the larger
    the quantity of data, the greater the benefit of PlusNet's options, and as
    PlusNet also offer mailboxes for all the family, etc, etc, etc there might
    be other things which appeal. MetroNet has only a 3 month minimum contract
    while PlusNet can be used on 1 or 12 month minimum (slightly higher fee to
    have 1 month contract, but as a new customer, if one hated the service the
    guarantee they offer would cover a migration to some other ISP anyway)...

    Just my 2p. Peter Morgan.
    poster, Aug 14, 2004
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    poster Guest

    poster, Aug 14, 2004
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    half_pint. Guest

    Well 1 GB a month works out a about 33mega bytes a day which is a fair bit
    for general surfing when the connection is idle 90% of the time.

    She should be able to estimate her usage my clicking the connection icon
    in the bottom right hand bar (looks like a monitor), it shows bytes send and
    recieved, it just a bit of maths to work out monthly usage.

    I just did a test on my puter of normal surfing and I did 1/2 meg in 10
    minutes which is 3 meg an hour, so she would have to be on for 11 hours
    a day to hit 1 GB

    Basically email is sod all in bandwith usage, as is online banking.

    Only big file downloads would push her over the limits, listing to any
    audio, either voice or music would be a problem too.

    I recently got an offer from NTL of free line rental for a year if I
    take their broadband package, its a very good offer so if I were you
    I would wait to see if you get a similar one.
    I made a post about it to this group a couple of hours ago so you
    might want to have a look at that.

    If she did start doing bigger downloads it might prove quite costly
    but it seems to me her usage is pretty negligible, when you are shopping
    the line is idle most of the time as data can be downloaded much faster
    than you can ever read it!!!

    Probably best to get some program which works out the usage for you
    as has been suggested. In fact I think I will get one myself as my usage
    varies quite a lot. However I would say than on a lowly dial up
    connection I could use 3 gig a month if I 'hammered it' but constant
    downloading for 5 hours a day but most of my usage is general surfing,
    low bandwith games (cards, pool) and chat rooms, although sometimes
    there is audio in the chat rooms.
    half_pint., Aug 15, 2004
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    half_pint. Guest

    Using a bandwith monitor my results were.
    I used 68meg in 20 hours = 3.4 meg an hour
    Therefore 1GB divided by 3.4 meg = 294 hours of surfing time a month.
    Thats 10 hours per day!!!
    More than enough for her I would imagine.

    However surfing habits can vary and I play poker online too which is low
    in its bandwidth usage and consumes several hours.
    I also did several big file downloads.

    I would conclude that 1GB would be more than enough for her, and also
    for me, possibly.
    half_pint., Aug 18, 2004
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