Do you think BT mislead Joe Public.

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by David, Jul 24, 2015.

  1. David

    David Guest

    Just received an e-mail from BT inviting me to try Infinity.
    I Clicked their link to see what speed they were offering, it gave an
    estimate of 31Mb to 40Mb
    That is what I get just, 31.17Mb
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    Regards
    David
     
    David, Jul 24, 2015
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  2. David

    Davey Guest

    Presumably if you had been getting 25, then they would have given you a
    low limit of 26.
     
    Davey, Jul 24, 2015
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  3. David

    7 Guest


    They do use a lot of internet trolls to silence its critics.

    Illegal in EU for any company to use such extreme means.

    It should be broken up.

    16 Gbit fiber optic transciever is about $15.
    That is todays norm.
    To put in a fiber link costs about 100 pounds average using modern
    work practices, tools, and terminations.

    Internation 100mbit bidirectional DSL lines (equal upload and download
    speed internet) are being delivered for about $50 per month for our
    competitors abroad with their telecom companies.

    So breaking them up, and giving equal access and legal rights to competitors
    to put in fiber under the streets would benefit everyone in UK.
    One independent default operator would oversee the infrastructure build
    up and take ownership if a competitor went out of business and then try
    to sell it back to others who wish to operate it.
     
    7, Jul 26, 2015
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  4. David

    MB Guest


    I don't know how much he pays but cost will not be a major factor in his
    choice, a friend near San Francisco told me that he only gets about a
    third of the 35 Mb that I get with BT Infinity 2. He is retired CEO and
    still a Director of a major software company as well as having his own
    company.

    The higher speeds than mine are not as commonplace as some people like
    to believe.
     
    MB, Jul 26, 2015
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  5. David

    7 Guest


    The USA is one of worst countries for internet. They block everything from
    voip to internet TV content, and peer links to demand money. They started
    the practice of making fibers go dark promising for example to install
    fiber in every town for government grants - this a promise which they kept
    except they didn't install any equipment to connect
    anyone to THAT FSCKING FIBER outside their FSCKING front door. Sheesh!!

    A practice that Bhtee adopted in earnest after taking government money
    to install tons of fiber.

    Bhtee should be broken up and modelled on countries like Sweden, Nordic
    countries, Japan, Hong Kong, Latvia and so on - wherever high speed internet
    is the norm.

    Allow free reign for small operators and municipalities to access the ducts
    under the streets and install fiber and services to fill demand.
    Sell off all the dark fiber to anyone that can use it. And if they don't use
    it properly then confiscate it and make it available for others.

    So if everyone wants a 1Gbit uncontended connection, yeah we can provide it,
    and chuck out all the Bhtee infrastructure and replace with a few cabinets
    of FPGA at the exchange.

    The world has moved on a lot with $15 fiber optic tranceivers running at
    16GHz, enough to power 160 homes with 100Mbit uncontended fiber links.
    Easy to buffer this kind of data inside and FPGA and get rid of metering
    with a bit of software that slows down excessive users for a few
    milliseconds giving priority to everyone else and then returning to full
    throttle when the bandwidth becomes available.
     
    7, Jul 26, 2015
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  6. David

    Dick Guest

    I see school's out again
     
    Dick, Jul 26, 2015
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  7. My ADSL speed is over twice their prediction.

    Andy
     
    Vir Campestris, Jul 26, 2015
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  8. David

    MB Guest


    I know what it was like at work where we had various site sharers using
    our buildings. We had to put a lot of effort into sorting mess left
    behind by them, it was supposed to be all done by another department but
    they just got all the glory and we had to clear up after them and
    usually were unable to charge to their codes. I cannot imagine it would
    be any better allowing other companies access to ducts and fibre.
     
    MB, Jul 26, 2015
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  9. David

    Martin Brown Guest

    Likewise on a moderately long rural line. My speed is about twice what
    my neighbours get largely through rewiring the house phone and applying
    the bell wire hack which gained an immediate +50% sync rate improvement
    with a correspondingly better SNR margin and stability.

    The predictor is very conservative although some poor devils with
    corroded aluminium in the signal path struggle to get anything at all
    (especially on days like today when it is raining and they get wet).

    A neighbouring village is so afflicted some only get 256k when dry!
     
    Martin Brown, Jul 27, 2015
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  10. David

    Graham. Guest

    I have postulated that "7" is his place on the autistic spectrum.
     
    Graham., Jul 27, 2015
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  11. David

    chris Guest

    How is that misleading? You're within the range they predict. This is
    exactly why they give a range rather than, say, tell you you're going to
    get 35.5Mbps.

    The prediction is sometimes wildly out, but here it's fine.
     
    chris, Jul 27, 2015
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  12. David

    Phil W Lee Guest

    More likely his IQ.
    Autistics typically absorb knowledge about their obsession to an
    extent which seems extraordinary to those who's brains are wired more
    typically, yet "7" seems incapable of absorbing anything, despite
    being apparently obsessed by it.
     
    Phil W Lee, Jul 27, 2015
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  13. David

    MB Guest


    For years groups of journalists have been taken to foreign countries,
    put up in top of the range hotels and given access to very high speed
    Internet connections then they come back and write reports as if
    everyone in that country has access to that speed of connection.
     
    MB, Jul 28, 2015
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  14. David

    7 Guest

    Well then you have no controls. Building inspectors sign
    off new construction regardless of who built the building.
    That is example of known and working controls system. In some
    countries building topple like sand castles because
    the mix of sand to cement ratio goes out the window
    with some bribes.
    May be you can't, but I can. It is a tried and tested ancient
    menthod called independent inspectors that sign off work.
     
    7, Aug 3, 2015
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  15. David

    7 Guest

    MB wrote:


    For years trolls like you have never travelled on business and see
    what the rest of the world enjoys for free or at very little cost.

    And then you have the audacity to give the UK public the blow job
    on such important topic?

    Yup - that is the internet troll - sucking up to their masters.

    You should know its illegal to engage internet trolling in EU for
    gainful employment if you are working for big crocporatons
    such as Bhtee and going around defending their crap piss poor service
    as a way of conning the general public.


    Here read the original post:


    They do use a lot of internet trolls to silence its critics.

    Illegal in EU for any company to use such extreme means.

    It should be broken up.

    16 Gbit fiber optic transciever is about $15.
    That is todays norm.
    To put in a fiber link costs about 100 pounds average using modern
    work practices, tools, and terminations.

    Internation 100mbit bidirectional DSL lines (equal upload and download
    speed internet) are being delivered for about $50 per month for our
    competitors abroad with their telecom companies.

    So breaking them up, and giving equal access and legal rights to
    competitors
    to put in fiber under the streets would benefit everyone in UK.
    One independent default operator would oversee the infrastructure build
    up and take ownership if a competitor went out of business and then try
    to sell it back to others who wish to operate it.
     
    7, Aug 3, 2015
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  16. David

    MB Guest



    The problem is the department that controlled it all, did it on trust
    and did not inspect things. The revenue appears on their books so they
    get the glory but others have to sort out the mess.
     
    MB, Aug 3, 2015
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  17. David

    MB Guest







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    MB, Aug 3, 2015
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  18. David

    7 Guest


    Pure hallucination?

    Why didn't your crocporation sue?

    Were they taking hallucinagens as well?
     
    7, Aug 6, 2015
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