Decent ADSL ethernet routers featuring UPnP?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by tHatDudeUK, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. tHatDudeUK

    tHatDudeUK Guest

    Or if none do just a decent ethernet ADSL router with built in modem and
    possibly more than one port. Been looking at the cheap ebuyer one but not
    too sure....
    tHatDudeUK, Aug 1, 2003
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    tHatDudeUK Guest

    Research is starting to lead me to conclude I should get the "Speedtouch 510
    v4 4 port UPnP ADSL router " even though the firewall is difficult to do
    anything with.
    tHatDudeUK, Aug 2, 2003
  3. Hi,
    FWIW, I have a speedtpuch 510v4, and it has performed brilliantly for
    the 4 months that I've had it. Not a single crash, and although the
    firewall is a pain at first, you soon get used to writing rules for it.
    Alternatively, you might want to consider the vigour range of routers. I've
    not used these myself, but lots of people recommend them. I believe the
    vigour has a firewall as well that is a little easier to configure. Costs a
    little more though.
    Martin Cooper, Aug 2, 2003
  4. tHatDudeUK

    Clive Guest

    I would agree with you on that, the 510v4 is an excellent router apart
    from setting up the firewall.

    Personally I havent changed much of anything in the firewall and prefer
    to use a software firewall on the PCs connected (much easier to
    Clive, Aug 2, 2003
  5. [/QUOTE]
    When you connect from a machine on your local network to a remote
    machine, the router has to allocate a port which it maps to the
    relevant port on your machine (so that, say, two of your machines can
    both have a connection from port 1025). It rewrites the outgoing
    packets to have the router's IP address and the allocated port, and
    rewrites incoming packets to have the real machine's IP address and
    port. It has to keep a table of these mappings. If a mapping is
    unused for 15 minutes it forgets it.

    I've no idea whether this is a problem for the programs you mention;
    maybe they send packets all the time, or reconnect if the connection
    fails (like a web browser does). Or maybe Windows uses UPnP to set up
    mappings manually. I mostly use ssh to log in to computers at work,
    and the 510v4 is useless for that.

    -- Richard
    Richard Tobin, Aug 4, 2003
  6. tHatDudeUK

    tHatDudeUK Guest

    So you just need to re-login and it'll be all sorted again?!

    Would this affect VPN or something like Symantec PC anywhere?

    Thanks for your help...


    tHatDudeUK, Aug 4, 2003
  7. Except that you'll have lost that message you were typing, your
    programs will have exited because they couldn't write to standard
    output and so on...
    If VPNs are handled by the router, presumably it keeps them up, along
    with connections over the VPN. I don't know about "PC anywhere".

    -- Richard
    Richard Tobin, Aug 4, 2003
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    Jolltax Guest

    Went through the same thing about a week ago and narrowed it down to the
    speedtouch or Draytek product. I bought the Draytek Vigor 2600 We.

    As I am not an ADSL/router techie can't comment other than to say it
    plugged in, auto confogured and works beautifully amd replaced my previous
    network switch , is also DNS server.. Has been up for 230 hrs now and has
    not been rebooted.

    Configuration is through an easy web interface. On my network is
    completely invisible using the default firewall, I even managed to forward
    some ports in about 5 mins yesterday and run a BF1942 server for a while.

    I really pleased with how easy it has all been so far as I was worried about
    the complications of NAT, uPNP etc. Have read the speedtouch is also a good


    Jolltax, Aug 11, 2003
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    Martin² Guest

    Yep, returned faulty Netgear with crappy software that wouldn't load or
    bought Draytek 2600We and never looked back.
    Martin², Aug 11, 2003
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