connecting old computer

Discussion in 'Broadband Hardware' started by Guest, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hi...I recently purchased Microsofts Wireless Router
    802.11g and the xbox live adapter so my son can play his
    games while i'm online at the same time. Was getting
    tired of him taking my DSL box everytime he wanted to play
    his games!! Anyway, i have an old computer in my basement
    which i believe was running Win95 when it was bought but
    was upgraded to Win98. Currently it uses a dial-up
    connection but i noticed there is an ethernet port in the
    back of it (no USB ports). My question is...now that i
    have the router...would i be able to hook this computer up
    wirelessly using ethernet plugs so i don't have to use the
    dial-up and tie up my phone line when i'm on that computer?
    And if so...does microsoft make some type of external
    ethernet adapter which i could use? I'm am very new and
    unknowledgable with all this router stuff and even more
    unknowledgable about taking my computer apart to install
    something. Any help with this would be greatly
    appreciated. I realize it probably won't make this old
    computer run any faster but i would just like to do away
    with the dial-up. Thanx for any info....Patty
     
    Guest, Feb 16, 2004
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  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have a couple of Win98 working here, with XP, 95, and
    Unix. The same network install CD works on the 98.

    If the 98 is close enough to the router, get an ethernet
    cable (like the blue cable that comes with the router),
    plug it into the network adapter on the computer, and
    install using the router CD. This does not require
    opening the PC.

    You may also consider using the XBox wireless adapter,
    plugging it into the ethernet port of the PC -- it may
    require some manual setup and tweaking however -- however
    you already have an XBox wireless adapter to experiment
    with and it does not require opening the computer.

    Otherwise, you may consider either buying:
    (a) an USB internal card + the USB wireless adapter, or
    (b) the wireless adapter card.

    For these cards, you need to open the computer box, and
    install the card. Most often it works right out of the
    box...
     
    Guest, Feb 17, 2004
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  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    i apologize but i am very new to this. My router is
    connected to my newer Win98 computer via the DSL modem on
    the main floor of my house. Upstairs, my son has the xbox
    live adapter hooked up to the xbox via ethernet plug. The
    reason why i bought all this was because i was getting
    tired of unplugging my DSL box so he could play xbox live
    all the time. And, of course you know, i couldn't get
    online when he was playing because he had my modem. My
    older Win98 is in my basement hooked up via dial-up at
    this time. Being it doesn't have USB ports, i'm guessing
    that my best solution would be to open the box and install
    the wireless card??? The older computer does have an
    ethernet socket on it but i'm gathering microsoft doesn't
    make an external adapter that i could just plug into the
    ethernet socket kind of like the xbox live?? That would
    probably be my easiest solution but you know nothing comes
    easy now a days!! Thanx for your help.....Patty
    P.S. How would i know if i could open the box and put the
    wireless card in it?? Is there any way to tell if there
    are open slots left without opening the box??
     
    Guest, Feb 17, 2004
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  4. buy ANOTHER XBOX MN-740 adapter and configure it on the XBOX just like
    the first one. when it is working properly, unplug it from the XBOX
    and plug it into the thernet port on the the computer basement. make
    sure the basement computer is set to DHCP. as long as the wireless is
    in range, you will connect.
     
    Barb Bowman [MVP-Windows], Feb 17, 2004
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  5. Guest

    Kerry Liles Guest

    Are those cheaper where you live? That might be a very expensive solution.
     
    Kerry Liles, Feb 17, 2004
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  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    You may be able to check for open slots by looking at the
    back of the computer. There should be plates covering the
    back of the computer (they are all the width of the
    computer if teh computer is set vertically) -- the ones
    in use typically show a connector or port on the plate;
    the free ones typically have no connector or port,
    although sometimes provide internal support.

    Another way is to look at the manual -- it should say how
    many slots remain available when was shipped, an how to
    add cards.
     
    Guest, Feb 17, 2004
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  7. Guest

    Davo Guest

    Get a HUB. Connect multiple ethernet devices to the DSL router. HUB = ~$20 -
    $30
     
    Davo, Feb 18, 2004
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  8. Guest

    Davo Guest

    Get a 10/100 SWITCH/HUB. Connect multiple ethernet devices, including
    wireless router to the DSL router. HUB = ~$20 -
    $30.
     
    Davo, Feb 18, 2004
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  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    so what you are saying is that i can use the xbox live
    adapter as an adapter for the basement computer?? I don't
    understand what DHCP is so i would i know if the computer
    is set to that. Is there anywhere i can go to check?
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    i don't know what a HUB is. My DSL router and the
    microsoft (wireless) router are connected to my main
    computer on the main floor of the house. If it means i
    would have to run wires to the basement, this is not an
    option. I don't think my landlord would appreciate me
    drilling holes into her floors. If you could be a little
    more specific as to how a HUB works...then maybe i could
    try this approach. Otherwise, i might have to just try
    the xbox adapter like the previous post suggested. Thanx
    again....Patty
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  11. yes, that is what I am saying. if you have a live ethernet port in this
    computer, unplug the existing XBOX adapter from the XBOX and try it. it
    should work.
     
    Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\), Feb 19, 2004
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  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I was just reading i another post where someone had said
    that this particular person can instal a MN730 adapter.
    Will that work for me??
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  13. Win98SE is the minimum as I recall. Do you have a free pci slot?
     
    Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\), Feb 19, 2004
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  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I realize that...that's why i want to make sure it will
    work before i go ahead a purchase it...lol My son does
    have one xbox live adapter connected to his xbox now..i
    think i'll disconnect that and try it first. Thanx for
    your response....Patty
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    how would i find out which edition of Win98 i have. I
    believe it was an old Win95 that was upgraded to Win98.
    Would that be the "se" version if it was upgraded? I know
    that i can't upgrade my AOL because it is only 100 mhz.
    I'm currently using AOL7.0 on dial-up on that computer
    which i would like to do away with so i can pay the BYOA
    fee which is $10.00 cheaper. In the longrun....that's
    120.00 a year i would be saving. I'm going to look right
    now to see if i have a free PCI slot. I know there is a
    place where i can plug an ethernet cable into but not sure
    if there are any other available slots. Check back with
    you soon....thanx for your help....Patty
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  16. Guest

    Guest Guest

    ok....checked the back of the PC and it looks like there
    are either 2 or 3 empty slots. I looked in the Systems
    file through the control panel and it says "microsoft
    Windows 98....4.10.1998. Does that mean i do not have
    the "se" version? It also says something about 80mb of
    Ram. Can I upgrade to Win98se with this little amount of
    Ram and then try to hook up the MN730?? Or should i just
    go with the xbox adapter?
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  17. You have the original, non SE version of win98. The 80mb is free hard drive
    space. I think you should test with the XBOX adapter, I don't think your
    computer has the horsepower to run the internal PCI card. Since you already
    have an XBOX adapter, you have nothing to use by testing with it.
     
    Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\), Feb 19, 2004
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  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    i tried the xbox live adapter but i don't think i'm doing
    it right. I went into AOL and clicked on TCI/IP to sign
    on and it gets hooked up on step 1: looking for TCI/IP
    connection or something like that. Am i doing something
    wrong here?
     
    Guest, Feb 19, 2004
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  19. can you run winipcfg (start, run then winipcfg) and see if there is a list
    for an Ethernet Adapter and if so, please post all the info that it shows.
    I thought you said you had a DSL connection - who is your DSL provider? Can
    you confirm that your XBOX has connected successfully to XBOX Live?
     
    Barb Bowman \(MVP-Windows\), Feb 19, 2004
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  20. Guest

    Chris H. Guest

    Do you have an account with AOL which allows multiple simultaneous
    connections? If not you need to check with them.
     
    Chris H., Feb 19, 2004
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