Best router for poor quality line?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Andrew Sayers, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. Hi

    Subject says it all really. I need to find which router would be best for a poor
    line. Initially it sync'd at 250k and my friend got a reliable connection. Recently
    he's seeing the router connect at 512k, but it keeps losing sync.

    His ISP has run tests and called out BT (his s/n ratio was down to 2 mb!). The BT
    engineer called and after a lot of fiddling around has got what he said was the best
    line. Apparently his local cables are aluminium and not copper and so this causes
    problems. Something from years back and BT aren't likely to get around to changing
    the cables within the next xx years.

    The BT guy suggested (after the crappy modem that BT sent him out with wouldn't even
    connect, but my friends Linksys router would connect) that he get a router that was
    likely to be 'good' with a poor s/n line. The Linksys isn't too bad - it loses sync
    and then regains it - and at least his BB does work, but we're looking to replace it
    with a new and better router.

    I run a ZyXel at home on my line and its fine (different village and copper cables).
    I know that Net gear are good, but I wonder whether it might be worth going for a
    Draytek. I believe that they are good, albeit more expensive.

    Is the extra expense likely to improve matters?

    Anyone's views much appreciated (except "Dave" the troll of course! :) )
    Andrew Sayers, Jul 19, 2006
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    kráftéé Guest

    The Draytek units are the only ones which can have firmware especially
    for longer lines. If money is no object I'd go for a Draytek, or shop
    cannily on Ebay & pick up a bargain..
    kráftéé, Jul 19, 2006
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  3. Brilliant, thanks Kraftee
    (Zen is great btw :)
    Andrew Sayers, Jul 19, 2006
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    Martin² Guest

    Draytek is very good, you can pick up the older model 2600 versions on Ebay
    cheaply, install the UK2 'longline' firmware and it should work well.
    Zyxel 2602HW is even better, uses the latest TI chipset, and as it is ADSL2+
    compatible it's more sensitive.
    On my line it synchs at 3Mb/s, while the Draytek 2600 won't go over 2Mb/s.
    Unfortunately in my situation the WiFI bit doesn't work, so I now have brand
    new (tested once), boxed,
    Zyxel 2602HW for sale, it has got 2 VoIP ports, retails at £155.
    Open to reasonable offers,
    Martin at gsoft dot freeserve dot co dot uk
    Martin², Jul 20, 2006
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    Chris Guest

    Speaking from personal experience: I am at the end of a very long
    line - 9Km from the exchange. I am getting 512 to about 600 d/s
    connection speed with a Netgear DG834 v2 router. It is worth you
    noting that the BT engineer's test modem could not synchronize at all
    on my line neither could my son's Draytek Vigor 2600+ with the long
    line firmware. This is on an ADSL max service with Zen. Until Max
    came along I could get no broadband at all. It is simply not a case
    that a more expensive option gives a better result. I regularly sing
    praises to my Netgear because if I hadn't chosen this, by pure chance,
    at the start I would never have known that a broadband service was
    possible on my line and would still have been stuck with dialup.
    Chris, Jul 20, 2006
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    Trev Guest

    Similar experience here - about 10 km from the exchange by road. My Netgear
    834 has worked pretty well on a Zen Home 250 service for about a year, only
    losing sync occasionally, mostly for a few hours around mid-day in hot,
    sunny weather. However, it has been down for 2 or 3 days at a time
    recently, so I bought a Draytek 2800. It has so far failed to sync. at all
    (in about 3 weeks of trying for up to 24 hours at a time). Where can I get
    this magical long line firmware? I can find only a reference to a version
    2.7_E68 to help with "sync problems" on the Draytek web site, and have
    tried that without any success, so far.

    Trev, Jul 21, 2006
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    Martin² Guest

    Martin², Jul 22, 2006
  8. Connecting the router to your master socket and connecting any extension cabling
    via a microfilter can also help. (Essential in my house!)
    Michael Chare, Jul 23, 2006
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    Trev Guest

    Trev, Jul 23, 2006
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    Chris Guest

    I note that the "y" and "d" versons are just shown as "alternative"
    without any details as to what the differences might be. When I tried
    the Draytek Vigor 2600+ there was a firmware specifically referred to
    as "long line" but this did not work either whereas my Netgear
    synchronized OK. Good luck!
    Chris, Jul 23, 2006
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