Best DSL/Cable router on the market for small home office?

Discussion in 'Linux Networking' started by Net Resident, Dec 31, 2003.

  1. Net Resident

    Net Resident Guest

    I was at CompUSA today, (not really my favorite place but they are
    close..) and I saw several units to choose from but only one that
    mentioned working with Linux. I'm curious what brand and model people
    find most stable and realiable.

    Do you folks also have a feature preference among the popular models on
    the market?

    I'm on Verizon DSL in NYC - does this limit options or steer
    preferences? The pricing I saw seemed reasonable at around $60.00
    dollars for simular units.

    I hope folks feel free to post thier opinions for this market item as I
    assume there are many folks seeking such information :)
     
    Net Resident, Dec 31, 2003
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  2. I'm going to have this engraved on my tombstone, I swear...

    What CompUSA et al call a router is in NO WAY a router - ditto a
    firewall. These units are generally a (potentially very buggy, IE
    Linksys) hardware NAT layer, some with a built in dhcp server and/or a
    DSL modem. PERIOD.

    Now, for some users, that will serve - but if you are expecting to
    make use of the features of a real router or firewall, you are going
    to be spending a whole lot of time swearing. I have a linksys DSL
    router (so called) in my closet that is totally useless - it's not
    even the right shape for a wheel chock - and it sure as hell isn't a
    router. It's a DSL modem and a 10/100 switch.

    To the OP - what, exactly, are you trying to do? Please be as
    specific as you can... You mention small office; Moving web and mail
    servers inhouse? What are you planning to do for a firewall? Yada
    Yada - you get the idea.


    Mike-

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    Michael W. Cocke, Dec 31, 2003
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    Clive Dove Guest

    As you are using DSL, I would suggest a dsl modem with a built-in
    router, such as the Metgear DG814.
    These devices work with any system that uses a browser. Configuration
    of the dsl connection is done once using a browser on either linux or
    windows to access the firmware. The connections between the computers
    and the router are a standard LAN connection DHCP (or your can use
    static ip if you prefer)
    I mentioned Netgear but most of these combined devices work the same
    way, a dsl modem outboard and a standard ip masquerading router inboard
    with the firmware configured using a browser to address the firmware's
    private-range ip address.

    If you have a separate PPPoE modem, perhaps one supplied by the service
    provider, the Linksys BEFSR41 4 port router works well with either dsl
    or cable.
     
    Clive Dove, Dec 31, 2003
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  4. Net Resident

    Net Resident Guest

    Thanks for the tips, I'm looking at those units now =)
     
    Net Resident, Dec 31, 2003
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    Net Resident Guest

    Thanks for the heads up. Not planing on any servers at the moment -
    really it is more of a home setup.. I already have the verizon device
    and a hub that I am not using at the moment. I have a Netgear print
    server and two other computers that all need to talk to each other again
    and to the printer.

    I figured I would probably just hang the hub off of the router which the
    print server and one non internet client would be on with two clients
    directly hitting the router.

    I could also take a old system to setup as a full time router but the
    cost, space and ease of configuration advantage I think favors a decent
    router.

    A hardware firewall I don't think I really care about but if it has one
    that works without a ton of fuss that would be good. Especially if I can
    just tell it to let *everyting* pass through in a few easy steps. I'm
    used to using Tiny Personal Firewall (old free version) on the client
    and it seems to work well enough but admittedly this is not an area I
    know much about on the firmware side - IE if it affords me speed or
    resource advantages. Any admin advantages for me mean very little I
    suspect.
     
    Net Resident, Dec 31, 2003
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  6. You're still calling it a router.. <sigh>.

    No (or not much) firewall? Have you been out there lately?! I cannot
    tell you how much I advise against that idea!!! Even a Linksys is
    better than nothing.

    Get yourself an old 486 and load smoothwall or shorewall up. Put it
    between the DSL modem and the hub. Plug all of your gear into the
    hub, behind the firewall. At the very VERY least, block ports 135-137
    and 440-445 at the firewall (bidirectionally if you ever run windows
    in house).

    It probably sounds like overkill, but do you really WANT to have your
    next door neighbors reading your email and the fellow down the block
    printing on your printer?

    There's a world of difference between "cheap and simple" and nothing
    at all. nothing at all is false economy, because you're gonna get
    hacked regularly, and you'll spend way too much time trying to put it
    together again.

    Mike-

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    Michael W. Cocke, Dec 31, 2003
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    P.T. Breuer Guest

    Why? What will a firewall do for you that keeping your distro up to
    date will not?
    Peter
     
    P.T. Breuer, Dec 31, 2003
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  8. Net Resident

    Net Resident Guest

    OK well here is the good I got Mandrake 9.2 installed and after some
    stumbling around I found the right wizard to help me setup install
    and PPPoe which is now working and this is my first post via this new
    Mandrake install and Pan (used Pan before and liked it).

    I do need to set up some sort of router so I may see about salvaging
    old hardware and doing as you suggest :) I never had a problem with
    windows mostly because I had a good working idea of what I needed software
    and configuration wise to stay out of trouble. With Linux I'm unsure of
    myself but I'm sure some reading will get me up to snuff soon enough.. I
    hope.

    Thanks for the feed back

    I want to thank Ted Potter in the other thread for pasting a link to a
    good PPPoe setup walk through even though I ended up not needing it, it
    was a good security blanket none the less :p
     
    Net Resident, Jan 1, 2004
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    terca_1 Guest

    As you are using DSL, I would suggest a dsl modem with a built-in

    I don't have a comment on that equipment, but I suggest you consider
    that NetGear has an unsatisfactory rating from the Better Business
    Bureau:
    http://www.bbbsilicon.org/common.ht...bindr/report.php&bureau=sanjose&compid=210357
     
    terca_1, Jan 2, 2004
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