Are Your Cell Phone and Laptop Bad for Your Health?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Lenny, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. Lenny

    Lenny Guest

    Here are just a couple of snippets of information which should help you
    realise how and where you are being suckered into a false sense
    of security regarding cell phone and wi fi safety:

    "A year ago, Microwave News also reported that approximately one-half of
    all studies looking into possible damage to DNA by communication-frequency
    EM fields found no effect. But three-fourths of those negative studies
    were industry- or military-funded; indeed, only 3 of 35 industry or
    military papers found an effect, whereas 32 of 37 publicly funded studies
    found effects."


    "Magda Havas, professor of environmental and resource studies at Trent
    University in Ontario submitted an analysis of radio-frequency effects
    found in more than 50 human, animal, and cellular-level studies published
    in scientific journals.
    Havas has specialized in investigating the effects of both low- and
    high-frequency EM radiation. She says most of the research in the field is
    properly done, but that alone won't guarantee that all studies will give
    similar results. "Natural variability in biological populations is the
    norm," she said.
    And, she says, informative research takes time and focus: "For example,
    studies that consider all kinds of brain tumors in people who've only used
    cell phones for, say, five years don't show an association. But those
    studies that consider only tumors on the same side of the head where the
    phone is held and include only people who've used a phone for ten years or
    more give the same answer very consistently: there's an increased risk of
    tumors." In other research, wireless frequencies have been associated with
    higher rates of miscarriage, testicular cancer, and low sperm counts."

    http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/58354/
     
    Lenny, Aug 2, 2007
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    Dylan35 Guest


    It's not wifi or mobiles you have to worry about it is the little green men
    who are coming to get you.

    Adam
     
    Dylan35, Aug 2, 2007
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    Eeyore Guest

     
    Eeyore, Aug 2, 2007
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    Bob Wibble Guest

    You still haven't cited your proof that you're involved in research, as you
    claimed.
     
    Bob Wibble, Aug 2, 2007
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    Peter Parry Guest

    Snipping being the operative word.
    You didn't mention the author of the article this quotation came from
    - "Stan Cox, a plant breeder and writer in Salina, Kansas. His book
    Sick Planet: Corporate Food and Medicine will be published by Pluto
    Press in Spring 2008".

    The review referred to is available at
    http://www.ehponline.org/members/2006/9149/9149.pdf not surprisingly
    it doesn't quite say what was quoted. For example it didn't look at
    studies investigating possible damage to DNA - DNA isn't even
    mentioned within the report.

    It also had a number of limitations

    "Our study has several limitations. We restricted our analysis to
    human laboratory studies. This resulted in a more homogenous set of
    studies, but may have reduced the statistical power to demonstrate or
    exclude smaller associations. The WHO has identified the need for
    further studies of this type to clarify the effects of radiofrequency
    exposure on neuroendocrine, neurologic, and immune systems (Foster
    and Repacholi 2004). We considered including epidemiologic studies
    but found that practically all of them were publicly funded. The
    study’s primary outcome— the reporting of statistically significant
    associations—is a crude measure that ignores the size of reported
    effects."

    You also didn't for example include the bit that said

    "Although we have shown an association between sponsorship and
    results, it remains unclear which type of funding leads to the most
    accurate estimates of the effects of radiofrequency radiation. For
    example, if researchers with an environmentalist agenda are more
    likely to be funded by public agencies or charities, then their bias
    may result in an overestimation of effects. Interestingly, studies
    with mixed funding were of the highest quality."

    Perhaps the fact the recent Essex Study was mixed funding influenced
    you?

    You also missed out "We stress that our ability to control for
    potential confounding factors may have been hampered by the
    incomplete reporting of relevant study characteristics."
    Magda Havas is a botanist with a BSc in Ecology and an Associate
    Professor (not Full Professor) at Trent University. She does not
    appear to have published many scientific papers recently (and most in
    the past have been within her primary field of botany and concerned
    with acidification of lakes) but she is a regular contributor to
    newspapers and speaker at the Toronto Dowsers Club. Her present
    interest appears to be dirty electricity.

    She has worked with an electrician, Graham-Stetzer who sells filters
    supposedly eliminating this problem in buildings
    http://www.stetzerelectric.com. Apparently fitting some of these
    boxes altered blood sugar levels in diabetics, helped asthma
    sufferers and allowed people with MS to walk again. Approximately 20
    Graham-Stezter filters (apparently a capacitor in a box) would be
    needed for an average home and they cost about $US30.00 each.

    You can also buy a Graham-Stetzer Microsurge meter (Only US$100.00)
    which plugs into the wall outlet and is claimed to measure the
    “average magnitude of the changing voltage as a function of time
    (dV/dt), which naturally emphasizes transients and other high
    frequency phenomena that change rapidly with time. The measurements
    of dV/dt read by the meter are defined as GS (Graham-Stetzer) units.
    The G-S units are a measure of "harmful energy""

    The British Columbia Centre for Disease Control evaluated the filter
    and the results can be found via
    http://www.bccdc.org/search.php?terms=stetzer&x=0&y=0
     
    Peter Parry, Aug 2, 2007
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    Dylan35 Guest

    He is the experiment !

    Adam
     
    Dylan35, Aug 2, 2007
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  7. He is researching to see if internet scare stories cause damage to peoples
    health.
    He is currently seeding the scare stories so the health effects can be
    induced and then evaluated.
    At the end he will conclude that posters like Lenny are dangerous and should
    be removed from the community.
     
    [email protected], Aug 2, 2007
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    Jon Guest

    declared for all the world to hear...
    Negative? Just because they did not suit your cause?
    So? Money s to come from somewhere.
    Without context that statement is meaningless. What effects was each
    individual study looking for, for example.

    I expect the CTRL C and V on your keyboard may need replacing soon.
     
    Jon, Aug 3, 2007
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