ADSL Modem-Router that also works as Wireless Router for cable modem..?

Discussion in 'Broadband' started by Steph, Mar 2, 2006.

  1. Steph

    Steph Guest

    Is such a thing available?

    Have got cable modem at current address but moving to an area without
    cable soon. Would ideally like to buy just one product.

    ADSL2 compatibility would be nice as well, since I'm in a
    future-proofing mood...

    All your advice gratefully recieved,
     
    Steph, Mar 2, 2006
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  2. Loads of them.

    BT will give you a free "2-Wire" (that's the brand name) router if you order
    business broadband from them.

    Has an ADSL port, 4off 10/100Mbps Ethernet ports, USB port, a bit of a
    firewall, VPN capable and can connect several wireless devices. Works
    pretty well from what I saw of it.

    If you put {ADSL2 wireless Ethernet router} into froogle, it comes up with
    loads, some under £50, including Netgear.
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Mar 2, 2006
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  3. Maybe we have different interpretations of what's being asked...?

    The typical /cable/ solution consists of a box which has one WAN
    Ethernet port, a NAT gateway function, several LAN Ethernet ports and
    the wireless AP. The WAN port connects to the cable-provider's cable
    modem Ethernet port (this is what my colleague does at home, for
    instance).

    The typical /ADSL/ solution consists of a box which has an ADSL port,
    NAT gateway function, several LAN Ethernet ports and the wireless AP.

    There are plenty of products of /each/ type around, but they're not
    the same box, and I don't know how one would hope to use the ADSL-type
    solution on the questioner's existing cable modem until he moves.

    (I would assume that a product which can serve both purposes would be
    quite a bit more expensive, since there's little call for it on the
    consumer market.)

    IMHO, there may be something to be said for getting one of the ISP's
    recommended boxes when first connecting to ADSL at a new site, even if
    it is a bit more expensive than the bargain box from the local
    white-box shifter (e.g Plusnet currently seem to be recommending* the
    BT Voyager 2110).

    * http://www.plus.net/products/hardware/wireless/basic_kit.shtml

    But, as I say, such an ADSL box wouldn't be useful as a router on the
    questioner's existing Cable line.
     
    Alan J. Flavell, Mar 2, 2006
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  4. He has cable where he is, and I guess it has a cable port and a USB port.
    My interpretation is that he intends to use the cable box until he moves to
    the new location where there is no cable and thereafter use the [single] new
    box that he intends to buy as a replacement...
    No, but if the cable box has an ethernet port then you can plug the ADSL
    router into it and just use it as a switch for the time being, and discard
    the cable modem after the move.
    OK as switch.
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Mar 2, 2006
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  5. I read his subject as:

    | ADSL Modem-Router that also works as Wireless Router for cable
    | modem..?

    and tried to respond on that basis...
    Well, my colleague with the cable connection gets one public IP
    provided by the ISP on his cable modem Ethernet port: without a NAT
    router function between there and the LAN, there's no point in having
    an Ethernet /switch/, since there's only one public IP address to use.

    I was kind-of guessing that the questioner is in the same position,
    and wants (as his subject says) a *router* (assuming a NAT function)
    which he can use with his cable modem until he moves: and a
    conventional ADSL box isn't going to do that for him.

    Of course, I could be wrong. Just doing my best to understand what
    was asked for.

    What /is/ feasible, is to buy a cable router with the usual 1 WAN
    port, 4 LAN ports, and wireless AP, for use now. Then for the new
    ADSL line get a cheaper ADSL router with just 1 Ethernet port. Link
    that port to one of the LAN ports on the cable router, and disregard
    its cable WAN function altogether, as I described in a recent posting.

    But it may be simpler to just get the proper ADSL box for the new ADSL
    connection, and flog the cable router on ebay or something.

    regards
     
    Alan J. Flavell, Mar 2, 2006
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  6. Steph

    Doz Guest

    AFAIK there isn't a router that works with cable and ADSL. (At least not a cheap
    home router - our 2 grand Cisco in work will do it.. !)

    If you put an ADSL router on a cable connection you won't get anwhere as all
    traffic will try to go down the ADSL part of the router. And if you put a cable
    modem router on an ADSL line.. you'll find there is nowhere to plug the ADSL
    into as the ADSL modem will be missing from the cable router.

    In short... Cable modem routers have a CAT5 ethernet WAN port and ADSL modem
    routers have a ADSL modem as the WAN port. They are as different as chalk and
    cheese.
     
    Doz, Mar 3, 2006
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  7. Which is similar to my proposal, but the other way around.
    PS Bluepoint has a Sweex 4 port wireless broadband router for £24.45pexc.
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Mar 3, 2006
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  8. OK; but either way around, it needs two NAT router boxes (a cable
    router and an ADSL router). Except that only one of them will have
    its NAT routing function in use - which one it is, depends on whether
    a cable connection or an ADSL connection is being used.

    The point that I was struggling to get over is that I'm not aware of a
    one-box solution on the consumer market that could do both jobs, which
    is what I understood the questioner to be asking for. That's on the
    assumption that what the questioner already has, really is only a
    cable *modem* as opposed to a cable *router*.
     
    Alan J. Flavell, Mar 3, 2006
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