3G 3G+ 4G LTE WiMax What does the new iPhone have?

Discussion in 'Wireless Internet' started by JJ, Sep 12, 2015.

  1. JJ

    Guest Guest

    in other words, you're picking which features to compare.

    the only fair comparison is with *all* features.

    compared to an iphone 6s, the nexus 6 lacks a 64 bit processor,
    advanced lte, a fingerprint sensor, 3d touch and live photos, just to
    name a few.

    also keep in mind that the nexus series is subsidized by google so
    you're not actually paying the full retail price. google makes money by
    monetizing users with ad revenue.
    no you can't.

    when the nexus 6 came out last year, it was the same price as an iphone
    6:

    <http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-6>
    The Nexus 6 finally arrived in the Play Store in mid-October,
    starting at $649 in either blue or white colors, but was severely
    limited in availability until U.S. carriers started to sell it in
    early November.

    since the nexus 6 is now last year's model and because it didn't sell
    that well, google has cut the price by $150, so it now starts at $500
    on the play store.

    <https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6>
     
    Guest, Sep 14, 2015
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  2. JJ

    Guest Guest

    that's exactly what they're doing. amazon does the same with the kindle.

    apple doesn't make their money by mining user data or pushing ads.
     
    Guest, Sep 14, 2015
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    JF Mezei Guest


    Actually they do. They broker ads that app makers agree to have in their
    apps. So when app maker agrees to ads, Apple provides the ads and gives
    a protion of proceeds to the app maker.

    Of course, this is not as huge a piece of the business as it is for Google.

    Secondly, while Nexus 5 was sold likely at cost, the Nexus 6 was sold at
    a profit for Google.
     
    JF Mezei, Sep 14, 2015
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  4. JJ

    Guest Guest

    no they don't
    that's not the same thing.
    it wasn't.
     
    Guest, Sep 14, 2015
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    Rod Speed Guest

    Its more complicated than that with LTE.
     
    Rod Speed, Sep 14, 2015
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    Axel Berger Guest

    Maybe so. The only useful comparison is with those feaure that are
    relevant to me. I agree that's hard to generalize, so one should read
    different comparisons from different paople and discard those, that look
    at irrelevant stuff.

    Axel
     
    Axel Berger, Sep 14, 2015
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  7. JJ

    JF Mezei Guest

    Everything that is important to you.

    Say you are a man and the phone has some feature that is of use only to
    women. That feature has no use to you. So the fact that phone 1 has that
    feature and phone 2 doesn't means that both are equal since phone 1 has
    a feature of 0 value to you.


    And when comparing specs on the "tech specs", it is not only impossible
    to compare fairly because manufacturer s never put exactly the same
    stuff on (for instance, Apple doesn't put CPU speed or RAM amount), but
    often the specs can be misleading.

    For instance a 8MP camera for an apple phone may appear to be inferior
    to a 12MP camera on some Samsung on the specs. But when you dig deeper
    and use your own experience, you may find the camera on the iphone
    actually yields better pictures because of better exposure and colour
    balance etc etc.

    Similarly, the user interface on one phone may be better than on
    another, yet, this is a highly pejorative measure and worse, one which
    requires expereicne on both phones before a judgement can be made.

    It is not fair to compare a phone with which you hyave years of
    experience against a new phone on which you have 5 miniutes experience
    and haven't learned any of the tricks to truly use it effectively.

    So it truly isn't easy to compare two phone.
     
    JF Mezei, Sep 15, 2015
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    Ewald Böhm Guest

    +1
     
    Ewald Böhm, Sep 15, 2015
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  9. JJ

    Guest Guest

    Everything that is important to you.[/QUOTE]

    you don't get to pick and choose which features to compare.

    the claim was that iphones are overpriced compared to products with
    different specs. that's bullshit.

    obviously, if the specs are different, the prices will be different. no
    surprise there.

    not only that, but the nexus 6 is partly subsidized by google because
    google monetizes the user by pushing ads which is how they can afford
    to sell it less than competing products. amazon does something similar
    with the kindle.

    if someone is going to say iphones are overpriced, then they must also
    say samsung and htc phones are overpriced, some of which sell for
    *more* than an iphone.

    the only fair comparison is matching all specs as closely as possible.

    which one you personally choose to buy is an entirely separate issue.
     
    Guest, Sep 15, 2015
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    Axel Berger Guest

    I don't. I want my comparison to be relevant to those, whose needs and
    wants more or less match mine. A comparison that includes everything
    irrelevant to me is worthless for me, unless it's detailed enough to
    rewrite it into another one that means something -- and then I'd still
    prefer the one that does not need rewriting.

    Different people value different comparisons by different authors,
    there's no one size fits all.
     
    Axel Berger, Sep 15, 2015
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    Guest Guest

    you're talking about which product best fits your needs. that is *not*
    the same as a price comparison. they are two totally different things.

    comparing two products of differing specs to 'prove' that one company
    makes more expensive products is bogus. period.

    the product with better specs will almost always cost more than the
    product with lesser specs. no surprise there.

    price comparisons must *always* match specs as closely as possible.

    you also have to look all products offered, not just two cherry-picked
    products and take into account if a product is partly subsidized, as
    what happens with google and amazon.

    whether you personally need a given product is a separate issue.
     
    Guest, Sep 15, 2015
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    AV3 Guest


    You would be hard pressed to find your twin among review-writers all the
    time. The better policy for reviewers is to give the fullest possible
    review and let each reader pick the features that are relevant to them.
    Sorry that that much work is a burden to you.


    Indeed. That is why the most useful review has the most information.


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    AV3, Sep 15, 2015
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    JF Mezei Guest

    I agree with the above. Especially the "let the reader pick the relevant
    features".

    The claim was made earlier that one needs to consider at all the specs.
    This is different from having all the specs available and choosing which
    are important.
     
    JF Mezei, Sep 15, 2015
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