Zen Take down notice

Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen after
being reported to them by Symantec.
They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey but i
don't have any Norton products on
my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so how is
this happening ?

Andy.

AJB wrote:
> Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen after
> being reported to them by Symantec.
> They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey but i
> don't have any Norton products on
> my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so how is
> this happening ?

Can you post some details from Zen that back up their assertion. If not,
have you asked them for these details? Without details, how can you
determine what is being asserted?

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AJB wrote:
> Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen
> after being reported to them by Symantec.
> They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey
> but i don't have any Norton products on
> my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so
> how is this happening ?

Assuming that Edonkey is a file sharing program, I would suspect as some
point you may have downloaded it (even if you're not using it) and now
Edonkey is sharing it on a peer-to-peer basis becasue it's in your shared
folder.

Have a look!

Tim

"Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> AJB wrote:
>> Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen
>> after being reported to them by Symantec.
>> They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey
>> but i don't have any Norton products on
>> my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so
>> how is this happening ?
>
> Assuming that Edonkey is a file sharing program, I would suspect as some
> point you may have downloaded it (even if you're not using it) and now
> Edonkey is sharing it on a peer-to-peer basis becasue it's in your shared
> folder.
>
> Have a look!
>
> Tim
>No , definately not in my shared folder.

Andy.

"AJB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> AJB wrote:
>>> Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen
>>> after being reported to them by Symantec.
>>> They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey
>>> but i don't have any Norton products on
>>> my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so
>>> how is this happening ?
>>
>> Assuming that Edonkey is a file sharing program, I would suspect as some
>> point you may have downloaded it (even if you're not using it) and now
>> Edonkey is sharing it on a peer-to-peer basis becasue it's in your shared
>> folder.
>>
>> Have a look!
>>
>> Tim
>>No , definately not in my shared folder.
>
> Andy.
>
You might be acting as a type of node or ultrapeer, so everyone searching
will see you as hosting everything held by hundreds of people connecting to
you!
Change your settings and ask the ISP for proof - a lot of ISPs look for ways
of throwing customers off once locked into 12months contract. It saves
bandwidth and gives income for nothing.

"Dennis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "AJB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>> AJB wrote:
>>>> Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen
>>>> after being reported to them by Symantec.
>>>> They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey
>>>> but i don't have any Norton products on
>>>> my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so
>>>> how is this happening ?
>>>
>>> Assuming that Edonkey is a file sharing program, I would suspect as some
>>> point you may have downloaded it (even if you're not using it) and now
>>> Edonkey is sharing it on a peer-to-peer basis becasue it's in your
>>> shared folder.
>>>
>>> Have a look!
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>No , definately not in my shared folder.
>>
>> Andy.
>>
> You might be acting as a type of node or ultrapeer, so everyone searching
> will see you as hosting everything held by hundreds of people connecting
> to you!
> Change your settings and ask the ISP for proof - a lot of ISPs look for
> ways of throwing customers off once locked into 12months contract. It
> saves bandwidth and gives income for nothing.
>
>

No contracts with Zen AFAIK

"Reg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Dennis" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "AJB" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Tim Downie" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>>> AJB wrote:
>>>>> Over the last few days i have recieved 2 take down notices from Zen
>>>>> after being reported to them by Symantec.
>>>>> They say that i have been distributing Norton antivirus over Edonkey
>>>>> but i don't have any Norton products on
>>>>> my computer , nor am i trying to download it. I do use Edonkey , so
>>>>> how is this happening ?
>>>>
>>>> Assuming that Edonkey is a file sharing program, I would suspect as
>>>> some point you may have downloaded it (even if you're not using it) and
>>>> now Edonkey is sharing it on a peer-to-peer basis becasue it's in your
>>>> shared folder.
>>>>
>>>> Have a look!
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>No , definately not in my shared folder.
>>>
>>> Andy.
>>>
>> You might be acting as a type of node or ultrapeer, so everyone searching
>> will see you as hosting everything held by hundreds of people connecting
>> to you!
>> Change your settings and ask the ISP for proof - a lot of ISPs look for
>> ways of throwing customers off once locked into 12months contract. It
>> saves bandwidth and gives income for nothing.
>>
>>
>
> No contracts with Zen AFAIK

1 month contracts with Zen. They know that they provide a good service, so
don't need to lock people in. People stay with Zen because of the quality of
service, uncapped usage, and reliability.

Zen are also fair when they issue warnings. Remove Edonkey from your system,
and inform Zen you have done this. That should be the end of the matter.

**SS**

> Zen are also fair when they issue warnings. Remove Edonkey from your system,
> and inform Zen you have done this. That should be the end of the matter.

If nothing else, install PeerGuardian2* and move over to one of the
networks that hasn`t been sued yet (bittorrent is harder to pin down
afaik) :-}

http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net

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"Colin Wilson" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Zen are also fair when they issue warnings. Remove Edonkey from your
>> system,
>> and inform Zen you have done this. That should be the end of the matter.
>
> If nothing else, install PeerGuardian2* and move over to one of the
> networks that hasn`t been sued yet (bittorrent is harder to pin down
> afaik) :-}
>
> http://peerguardian.sourceforge.net
>
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Or Blocklist Manager / Protowall
http://www.bluetack.co.uk
Blocklist Manager also intergrates with PeerGuardian2

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> Remove Edonkey from your system,
> and inform Zen you have done this. That should be the end of the matter.

No, don't do this. Tell ZEN to ask the complainant for EXACT evidence.
I know that Zen routinely do this, and they never hear back from the
litigant making the complaint.

Edonkey is a completely legitimate piece of software. If people wish to
use it for copyright infringement purposes, then that's their lookout,
however you shouldn't be forced to remove ANY software from your own PC
without a court order. (and even then it's debatable..)

Cheers,
Chris