Zen, AAISP, Idnet or other?

Tony Mountifield wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Adrian Mupp <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Not quite sure what you mean with regards to Claranet, I have a block of
>> 8 addresses from them and have had for some time, I just called them up
>> and asked them for it.
>
> Oh, ok. I asked some time ago and the support person who replied

Theres the rub. If you get a good person at Clara, they are good.

Mostly, sadly, you dont.

My chief reason for abandoning them.

That and the draconian way they handled excess bandwidth usage.

Max <(E-Mail Removed)> considered Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:55:58
+0000 the perfect time to write:

>On 7 Mar 2010 18:07:18 GMT, Bob Eager <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I wanted 16 extra static IP addresses (I had 16 already). They emaile dme
>>back within half an hour to say that they were now routing a new 32
>>address block to me, and to let them know (no rush) when I'd changed over
>>and stopped using the old one. AS an aside, you can have a block of IPv6
>>addresses routed to you too at no extra charge.
>
>IDNET quoted me 10 quid per month extra for a block of 8 IP's
>
>So that't what's currently stopping me from going with them.
>
>mjh
>
1 or 8 (your choice) static addresses are included in the price with
Zen.

Bob Eager <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

> I didn't actually make it clear, but AAISP don't charge for IPv4 blocks
> either.

Nor for IPv6 blocks either.

On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 20:58:03 +0000, Graham Murray wrote:

> Bob Eager <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>> I didn't actually make it clear, but AAISP don't charge for IPv4 blocks
>> either.
>
> Nor for IPv6 blocks either.

I know. I said "AS an aside, you can have a block of
IPv6 addresses routed to you too at no extra charge." !!

But good to make it clear. All of the static addresses are provided at no
charge.



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In article <hn09hv$7d3$(E-Mail Removed)>,
The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Tony Mountifield wrote:
> > I'm looking to change my ADSL broadband supplier from Claranet so
> > that I can get a block of 8 IPs (5 usable, I know) instead of a
> > single static IP.
>
> I went with IDnet because they fitted what I wanted

Cool. Would you mind doing a traceroute to a couple of specific
addresses, so I can see how IDnet connectivity compares with others,
and then either post the results here or email me privately (my
email address above works fine without any mangling)? Thanks.

The two addresses of interest are 84.234.17.119 and 87.238.75.113

Cheers
Tony
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Tony Mountifield wrote:
> In article <hn09hv$7d3$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Tony Mountifield wrote:
>>> I'm looking to change my ADSL broadband supplier from Claranet so
>>> that I can get a block of 8 IPs (5 usable, I know) instead of a
>>> single static IP.
>> I went with IDnet because they fitted what I wanted
>
> Cool. Would you mind doing a traceroute to a couple of specific
> addresses, so I can see how IDnet connectivity compares with others,
> and then either post the results here or email me privately (my
> email address above works fine without any mangling)? Thanks.
>
> The two addresses of interest are 84.234.17.119 and 87.238.75.113
>
> Cheers
> Tony

2 telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net (212.69.63.51) 42.041 ms 42.047 ms
42.033 ms
3 telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net (212.69.63.243) 42.015 ms 42.006
ms 41.989 ms
4 195.66.225.116 (195.66.225.116) 42.327 ms 44.640 ms 46.629 ms
5 the-edge.netrino.co.uk (84.234.19.141) 48.620 ms 50.282 ms 51.931 ms
6 sov-edge.netrino.co.uk (84.234.19.253) 53.740 ms 28.375 ms 30.256 ms
7 bs1-core.netrino.co.uk (84.234.19.5) 33.769 ms 32.470 ms 34.074 ms
8 host2.softins.co.uk (84.234.17.119) 36.605 ms !X 37.964 ms !X
39.962 ms !X

....

2 telehouse-gw2-lo1.idnet.net (212.69.63.51) 41.486 ms 41.487 ms
41.468 ms
3 telehouse-gw3-g0-1-400.idnet.net (212.69.63.243) 41.454 ms 41.437
ms 41.425 ms
4 r8-1-1.netzquadrat.net (195.66.225.14) 42.918 ms 44.313 ms 46.727 ms
5 magrathea-gw.netzquadrat.net (217.10.64.70) 48.046 ms 49.972 ms
52.590 ms
6 gbr-lon-7204-04.magrathea.net.uk (87.238.72.120) 54.626 ms 27.592
ms 29.050 ms
7 miton1.miton.co.uk (87.238.75.113) 31.826 ms 32.665 ms 36.275 ms

Looks like the latter one is routing via a third party.

The first goes direct.

I've removed the first hop, as its my gateway.

In article <hn67ud$ggm$(E-Mail Removed)>,
The Natural Philosopher <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> [...traceroute output...]

Many thanks - much appreciated!

Tony

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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:55:58 +0000, Max muttered these words in an
American accent:

> On 7 Mar 2010 18:07:18 GMT, Bob Eager <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I wanted 16 extra static IP addresses (I had 16 already). They emaile
>>dme back within half an hour to say that they were now routing a new 32
>>address block to me, and to let them know (no rush) when I'd changed
>>over and stopped using the old one. AS an aside, you can have a block of
>>IPv6 addresses routed to you too at no extra charge.
>
> IDNET quoted me 10 quid per month extra for a block of 8 IP's
>
> So that't what's currently stopping me from going with them.
>
> mjh

Contact them and tell them - they will probably offer to halve it. FWIW I
would avoid ZEN like the plague. Their support department is staffed by
some of the rudest, clueless f**kwits known to man kind and their
accounts department suffer from literacy issues. If you don't need to
contact them, their service is passable - but the measure is when
something goes wrong and really, they don't hold a pot to piss in
compared to IDNET. The little extra is really worth it.

In article <hmuocg$a4t$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Tony Mountifield <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I'm looking to change my ADSL broadband supplier from Claranet so
> that I can get a block of 8 IPs (5 usable, I know) instead of a
> single static IP.
>
> Currently looking at Zen, AAISP and Idnet, about all of which I have
> seen good reports over the years, but don't know how they currently
> compare on performance and service.

Thanks to all for the responses. I've decided to go with AAISP.
For my level of usage, they will actually work out a little cheaper
than I currently pay for Claranet.

Just waiting for my MAC now (they insist the request is in writing,
e.g. email).

Cheers
Tony
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