zap intruders

Hi is there any way to run a script on the computer of those who join my
network, so that I may fry their machines?

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:23:19 -0600, Pauline Parrot spoketh

>Hi is there any way to run a script on the computer of those who join my
>network, so that I may fry their machines?
>
>

haha. good one. That is a joke, right?

Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
(replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)

"Pauline Parrot" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Hi is there any way to run a script on the computer of those who join my
> network, so that I may fry their machines?


Nothing like that exists. It's impossible to even make a script that runs on
a computer hooked up to your network: I've been wardriving for years, and at
this very m

--
William Warren
(Filter noise from my address for direct replies.)

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:23:19 -0600, "Pauline Parrot"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi is there any way to run a script on the computer of those who join my
>network, so that I may fry their machines?

Fry as in cooked or incinerated? Well, that's kinda difficult to do
in software. I suggest more conventional technology instead. The US
Navy has AGM-88 HARM (High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile) rockets that
will home on any source of RF. Once you determine the general
direction of the wireless intruder, the AGM-88 missile can be launched
and will properly fry the machine and its owner. The government cost
is currently $284,000 each, so I would use this method of interference
and hacker reduction sparingly. However, a suitable demonstration of
frying one or two perpetrators should be sufficient to discourage
others from joining your network.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/.../wep-harm.html

--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 00:23:19 -0600, "Pauline Parrot"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Hi is there any way to run a script on the computer of those who join my
>>network, so that I may fry their machines?
>
> Fry as in cooked or incinerated? Well, that's kinda difficult to do
> in software. I suggest more conventional technology instead. The US
> Navy has AGM-88 HARM (High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile) rockets that
> will home on any source of RF. Once you determine the general
> direction of the wireless intruder, the AGM-88 missile can be launched
> and will properly fry the machine and its owner. The government cost
> is currently $284,000 each, so I would use this method of interference
> and hacker reduction sparingly. However, a suitable demonstration of
> frying one or two perpetrators should be sufficient to discourage
> others from joining your network.
>
> http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/.../wep-harm.html
>
A focused EMP would be more cost effective, until the colaterals billed you
for their fried equipment.
--
NEMO SALTAT SOBRIUS NISI FORTE INSANIT.

> http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/.../wep-harm.html

You will of course need the launcher and support equipment as well...

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:01:15 GMT, JM <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>> http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/.../wep-harm.html

>A focused EMP would be more cost effective, until the colaterals billed you
>for their fried equipment.

Focused? A big dish belching lots of microwave will fry everything
between you and the target, as well as everything beyond the target,
that's inline (and in accordance with inverse square law). Unless
your focused EMP or HERF gun is not a precision weapon unless you
happen to be flying it overhead. Hmmm... that reminds me of
something.

In a previous life, I played RF engineer and had some experience with
direction finders:
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/doppler_notes1.txt
http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/doppler_notes2.txt

In about 1990, I played with a direction finder system that used two
or more RC (radio controlled) helicopters, balloons, or airplanes.
Each flying machine contained a receiver, GPS, and telemetry
transmitter. When a signal is heard, the telemetry transmitters send
the relative phase of the received signal and the various GPS
satellites. No need to send the lat-long-altitude of the flying
machine as this can be calculated from the various satellite delays.
The position of the transmitter can be calculated from the relative
delays. The system worked well enough in a simulator, but fell apart
in the field for various stupid reasons. The main problem was that
this was about 1989, when GPS was called Navstar, had only 8 out of 24
birds, GPS receivers cost $2000/ea, and the whole mess was too heavy
to fly, even with a balloon. Another great idea before it's time.

Anyway, one application of such a direction finder is to locate an
unwanted user on a wireless LAN, fly a helicopter or airplane
overhead, and drop something smelly and disgusting from above. While
not as effective as a HARM missile, it's far more precise and cheaper.

Bringing topic drift to a new all time low....


--
Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 09:33:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann spoketh

>
>Fry as in cooked or incinerated? Well, that's kinda difficult to do
>in software. I suggest more conventional technology instead. The US
>Navy has AGM-88 HARM (High Speed Anti-Radiation Missile) rockets that
>will home on any source of RF.

First off, the HARM is a missile, not a rocket. And it seeks in on
active radar transmitters.

And, IIRC, the Chernobyl virus (aka Cih) would zap your CMOS rendering
your computer useless...

Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
(replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)

i said fry their machine, not flying machine, you twack.
Who are you- Rosanna-danna?



"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 17:01:15 GMT, JM <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>> http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/.../wep-harm.html
>
>>A focused EMP would be more cost effective, until the colaterals billed
>>you
>>for their fried equipment.
>
> Focused? A big dish belching lots of microwave will fry everything
> between you and the target, as well as everything beyond the target,
> that's inline (and in accordance with inverse square law). Unless
> your focused EMP or HERF gun is not a precision weapon unless you
> happen to be flying it overhead. Hmmm... that reminds me of
> something.
>
> In a previous life, I played RF engineer and had some experience with
> direction finders:
> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/doppler_notes1.txt
> http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/doppler_notes2.txt
>
> In about 1990, I played with a direction finder system that used two
> or more RC (radio controlled) helicopters, balloons, or airplanes.
> Each flying machine contained a receiver, GPS, and telemetry
> transmitter. When a signal is heard, the telemetry transmitters send
> the relative phase of the received signal and the various GPS
> satellites. No need to send the lat-long-altitude of the flying
> machine as this can be calculated from the various satellite delays.
> The position of the transmitter can be calculated from the relative
> delays. The system worked well enough in a simulator, but fell apart
> in the field for various stupid reasons. The main problem was that
> this was about 1989, when GPS was called Navstar, had only 8 out of 24
> birds, GPS receivers cost $2000/ea, and the whole mess was too heavy
> to fly, even with a balloon. Another great idea before it's time.
>
> Anyway, one application of such a direction finder is to locate an
> unwanted user on a wireless LAN, fly a helicopter or airplane
> overhead, and drop something smelly and disgusting from above. While
> not as effective as a HARM missile, it's far more precise and cheaper.
>
> Bringing topic drift to a new all time low....
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:00:27 -0600, "Pauline Parrot"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>i said fry their machine, not flying machine, you twack.

I usually fix machines, not break them. There are many ways of
trashing a machine over a LAN connection. However, this is a family
newsgroup and posting such things are generally unacceptable.

>Who are you- Rosanna-danna?

I am the hacker. I break all the rules.
I'll tear up your system. I have all the tools.
No system is safe, when I'm on the phone.
I do it for pleasure, and all on my own.
I've been in your files, and made the grand tour.
I've stolen your secrets, of this I am sure,
and when I'm discovered, they all act like fools.
for I am the hacker. I now make the rules.


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Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558