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Ken Bessler
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      04-01-2006, 10:10 AM
I finally got my WLAN setup operating today with the arrival
of my V5 WRT54G. BTW, it came with 1.00 f/w but I upgraded
to 1.06 just in case. On my thinkpad I have an Atheros mini
pci card feeding two 4 element coaxial collinear antennas that
are tacked on the back of my screen with hot glue. The Atheros
card puts out 100mw and I think the WRT54G puts out 30mw.

Anyways, I went for a walk to do a range check and I got
about 1,400 ft before I lost signal due to interference from other
WLANs on the same channel & with the same SSID. This
was NOT line of sight - I was going through houses & buildings.

I'll repeat the test sometime today now that I'm on a ch that
(according to Net Stumbler) nobody else is using in my area
and I now have a unique SSID.

Now - on to my questions:

1) Is it me or is 1,400' above average range for WiFI?
2) I googled and read that WEP is not 100% secure so I switched
to WPA Personal TKIP but Net Stumbler still reports that
I'm running WEP? I verified several times that I am running
WPA. What's up with that?
3) Anyone have a source for RP-TNC connectors that can be used
with LMR-400 (.405" dia) coax? I'm gonna build a pair of
16 element collinear antennas and put 'em up my 60' tower
-maybe.

Thanks for the advice!

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Jeff Liebermann
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      04-01-2006, 07:06 PM
"Ken Bessler" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I finally got my WLAN setup operating today with the arrival
>of my V5 WRT54G. BTW, it came with 1.00 f/w but I upgraded
>to 1.06 just in case.


>On my thinkpad I have an Atheros mini
>pci card feeding two 4 element coaxial collinear antennas that
>are tacked on the back of my screen with hot glue. The Atheros
>card puts out 100mw and I think the WRT54G puts out 30mw.


Typical for WRT54G is about 35mw.
4 element collinear should have about 8dBi gain.

>Anyways, I went for a walk to do a range check and I got
>about 1,400 ft before I lost signal due to interference from other
>WLANs on the same channel & with the same SSID. This
>was NOT line of sight - I was going through houses & buildings.
>
>I'll repeat the test sometime today now that I'm on a ch that
>(according to Net Stumbler) nobody else is using in my area
>and I now have a unique SSID.
>
>Now - on to my questions:
>
>1) Is it me or is 1,400' above average range for WiFI?


Impressive and much more than I would expect. The catch is that
although methinks you were able to see the WRT54G with Netstumbler, I
can't tell if you would actually be able to use the connection at
1400ft. My guess is that it would appear and disappear along with
reflections and interference.

>2) I googled and read that WEP is not 100% secure so I switched
> to WPA Personal TKIP but Net Stumbler still reports that
> I'm running WEP? I verified several times that I am running
> WPA. What's up with that?


That's Netstumbler. It never displayes WPA.

>3) Anyone have a source for RP-TNC connectors that can be used
> with LMR-400 (.405" dia) coax? I'm gonna build a pair of
> 16 element collinear antennas and put 'em up my 60' tower


You don't want the RP-TNC on the end of a stiff piece of LMR-400. Use
N connectors on the LMR-400 and an N to RP-TNC pigtail, with more
flexible coax cable. However, if you insist:
| http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/con...?SKU=ARTP-1404
| http://www.altelicon.com/reverse_pol...connectors.php

Incidentally, the loss at 2.4Ghz for 60ft of LMR-400 is 4dB. That's
more than half your power and sensitivity gone in the coax (plus about
0.5dB per connector pair, plus pigtail, etc). You might wanna
consider doing PoE (power over ethernet) to the antenna, mounting the
radio on the tower top, and not using coax.

Hmmmm.... 16 element collinear should be about 14dBi gain (depending
on combiner/splitter configuration). Two of them will give you
perhaps 17dBi. Why not just buy a common 24dBi barbeque grill dish
and be done with it?
http://www.pacwireless.com/products/directional.shtml

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