XP AND 2000

Hello to everyone,

This is just a general question really.

I came across a network setup with the following:-

• NT4 Server
• Windows XP machines
• Windows 2000 PC
• Windows 98 Machines

Basically, all PCs except the Windows 2000 machine are on the domain. The
Windows 2000 PC is on a workgroup, the same name as the domain.

Lets assume, the following:-

• Windows XP machine = XP-A (domain)
• Windows XP machine =XP-B (domain)
• Windows 2000 = 2000-C (workgroup)

My questions really are:-

1. The Windows 2000 PC can see some of the other PCs in ‘my network places’
but not all of them. All other PCs are on a domain. Is this because some of
the other PCs are turned off or can this still happen?

2. Also, all PCs from the XP machines can be seen in ‘my network places’ but
none of them can be pinged!!!

3. When XP-A tries to access resources on XP-B in ‘my network places’ all is
fine. When XP-B tries to access resources on XP-A in ‘my network places’ it
throws up a a username and password box. The username is greyed out with a
guest account.

4. Finally, why is it that even when a PC is not on a domain i.e. on a
workgroup, it can still view resources on the domain. I thought the whole
point of a domain was security etc and authentication. This confuses me.

Many thanks to all who take their time to answer and view my questions,
Jeff

In news:0749B80D-A7F5-4522-8A5E-(E-Mail Removed),
jeffuk123 <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented on
below:
> Hello to everyone,
>
> This is just a general question really.
>
> I came across a network setup with the following:-
>
> . NT4 Server
> . Windows XP machines
> . Windows 2000 PC
> . Windows 98 Machines
>
> Basically, all PCs except the Windows 2000 machine are on the domain.
> The Windows 2000 PC is on a workgroup, the same name as the domain.
>
> Lets assume, the following:-
>
> . Windows XP machine = XP-A (domain)
> . Windows XP machine =XP-B (domain)
> . Windows 2000 = 2000-C (workgroup)
>
> My questions really are:-
>
> 1. The Windows 2000 PC can see some of the other PCs in 'my network
> places' but not all of them. All other PCs are on a domain. Is this
> because some of the other PCs are turned off or can this still happen?

They should still show up for a time even after turning them off. If you
have WINS, they will still show all the time. Could be permissions as well.
Could also be XP uses forced network packet signing too.


> 2. Also, all PCs from the XP machines can be seen in 'my network
> places' but none of them can be pinged!!!

XP Firewall?

>
> 3. When XP-A tries to access resources on XP-B in 'my network places'
> all is fine. When XP-B tries to access resources on XP-A in 'my
> network places' it throws up a a username and password box. The
> username is greyed out with a guest account.

Because it doesn't recognize the logged on account. Check in it's local
policy if Classic sharing and security model is enabled. It should be by
default if joined.

>
> 4. Finally, why is it that even when a PC is not on a domain i.e. on a
> workgroup, it can still view resources on the domain. I thought the
> whole point of a domain was security etc and authentication. This
> confuses me.

Because of the default Browser service.

>
> Many thanks to all who take their time to answer and view my
> questions, Jeff

I hope they help...

--
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile
Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations

"Very funny Scotty. Now, beam down my clothes."

The only thing in life is change. Anything more is a blackhole consuming
unnecessary energy.

Thanks Ace,

First class service once again. Thankyou.

Jeff

"Ace Fekay [MVP]" wrote:

> In news:0749B80D-A7F5-4522-8A5E-(E-Mail Removed),
> jeffuk123 <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented on
> below:
> > Hello to everyone,
> >
> > This is just a general question really.
> >
> > I came across a network setup with the following:-
> >
> > . NT4 Server
> > . Windows XP machines
> > . Windows 2000 PC
> > . Windows 98 Machines
> >
> > Basically, all PCs except the Windows 2000 machine are on the domain.
> > The Windows 2000 PC is on a workgroup, the same name as the domain.
> >
> > Lets assume, the following:-
> >
> > . Windows XP machine = XP-A (domain)
> > . Windows XP machine =XP-B (domain)
> > . Windows 2000 = 2000-C (workgroup)
> >
> > My questions really are:-
> >
> > 1. The Windows 2000 PC can see some of the other PCs in 'my network
> > places' but not all of them. All other PCs are on a domain. Is this
> > because some of the other PCs are turned off or can this still happen?
>
> They should still show up for a time even after turning them off. If you
> have WINS, they will still show all the time. Could be permissions as well.
> Could also be XP uses forced network packet signing too.
>
>
> > 2. Also, all PCs from the XP machines can be seen in 'my network
> > places' but none of them can be pinged!!!
>
> XP Firewall?
>
> >
> > 3. When XP-A tries to access resources on XP-B in 'my network places'
> > all is fine. When XP-B tries to access resources on XP-A in 'my
> > network places' it throws up a a username and password box. The
> > username is greyed out with a guest account.
>
> Because it doesn't recognize the logged on account. Check in it's local
> policy if Classic sharing and security model is enabled. It should be by
> default if joined.
>
> >
> > 4. Finally, why is it that even when a PC is not on a domain i.e. on a
> > workgroup, it can still view resources on the domain. I thought the
> > whole point of a domain was security etc and authentication. This
> > confuses me.
>
> Because of the default Browser service.
>
> >
> > Many thanks to all who take their time to answer and view my
> > questions, Jeff
>
> I hope they help...
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Having difficulty reading or finding responses to your post?
> Instead of the website you're using, I suggest to use OEx (Outlook Express
> or any other newsreader), and configure a news account, pointing to
> news.microsoft.com. This is a direct link to the Microsoft Public
> Newsgroups. It is FREE and requires NO ISP's Usenet account. OEx allows you
> to easily find, track threads, cross-post, sort by date, poster's name,
> watched threads or subject.
>
> It's easy:
> How to Configure OEx for Internet News
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=171164
>
> Ace Fekay, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSE+I, MCT, MVP
> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
> Assimilation Imminent. Resistance is Futile
> Infinite Diversities in Infinite Combinations
>
> "Very funny Scotty. Now, beam down my clothes."
>
> The only thing in life is change. Anything more is a blackhole consuming
> unnecessary energy.
>
>
>
>
>

In news:6F539768-BFDD-4B0E-A503-(E-Mail Removed),
jeffuk123 <(E-Mail Removed)> stated, which I commented on
below:
> Thanks Ace,
>
> First class service once again. Thankyou.
>
> Jeff

Thanks for the plug and really glad I was helpful!

Ace