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kato fong
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      08-09-2007, 08:28 AM
Hi everyone,

A friend of mine just get a WRT54GL from his internet provider.
This router allows correct access to basic internet services (dns, http,
pop, ...), but it doesn't allow access to the usual configuration page
by http://192.168.1.x/

Any idea about a _simple_ way to know which is the firmware ? The
linksys official or DD-WRT, Ewrt, Freifunk, HyperWRT, OpenWRT, Sveasoft,
TinyPEAP, Thibor ... ?

(I mean _simple_ because my friend is not an expert)

Thanks a lot

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barry@sme-online.com
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      08-09-2007, 04:52 PM
Are you sure that address will work? The 3rd # in the quad is the
question.

Otoh, you could check the IP config of a pc it's provided DHCP service
to,
and then GET relevant "page." Hint: it could well be 192.168.16.1.

HTH,
J

On Aug 9, 4:28 am, kato fong <k...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> A friend of mine just get a WRT54GL from his internet provider.
> This router allows correct access to basic internet services (dns, http,
> pop, ...), but it doesn't allow access to the usual configuration page
> byhttp://192.168.1.x/
>
> Any idea about a _simple_ way to know which is the firmware ? The
> linksys official or DD-WRT, Ewrt, Freifunk, HyperWRT, OpenWRT, Sveasoft,
> TinyPEAP, Thibor ... ?
>
> (I mean _simple_ because my friend is not an expert)
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> --
> kato



 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      08-09-2007, 07:03 PM
kato fong <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>Hi everyone,
>
>A friend of mine just get a WRT54GL from his internet provider.
>This router allows correct access to basic internet services (dns, http,
>pop, ...), but it doesn't allow access to the usual configuration page
>by http://192.168.1.x/
>
>Any idea about a _simple_ way to know which is the firmware ? The
>linksys official or DD-WRT, Ewrt, Freifunk, HyperWRT, OpenWRT, Sveasoft,
>TinyPEAP, Thibor ... ?
>
>(I mean _simple_ because my friend is not an expert)


Yeah, brain surgery for beginners. Great concept.

They could have just changed the default IP address:
1. Plug a comptah via ethernet into a LAN port #1. Don't try this
via wireless as there's a setting to disable wireless config.
2. Set the computer to get it's IP address via DHCP (the default).
3. Wait a minute until the computer gets the IP address.
4. Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
ipconfig <enter>
5. The IP of the router is the IP address of the "default gatway"

I'll assume it's 192.168.1.1.
First try:
http://192.168.1.1
http://192.168.1.1/
https://192.168.1.1
and see if they work. If they don't try it again with the other 3 LAN
ports. If the router is setup for a VLAN (a likely config for a
wireless ISP), then each port might be individually configured to
allow management.

They may also have changed the default HTTP port from 80 to something
else. Try 8080 or just scan the gateway IP with a port scanner to see
what ports are open.

If that doesn't work, try to telnet to the usualy managment port with:
telnet 192.168.1.1 8080
You can sometimes identify the OS by the telnet or SSH prompt. For
exmple, my DD-WRT based router returns:

DD-WRT v23 SP3 std (c) 2007 NewMedia-NET GmbH
Release: 07/21/07 (SVN revision: 7509)

DD-WRT login:

If that doesn't work, try attacking the router with putty (an SSH
client) and NMAP (a port scanner). I think these are above the
ability of total beginners and you're stuck with helping.

If the ISP was wise enough to keep people out of their routers, you
can be sure they setup a proper password to enforce their TOS. You
may end up with a connection, but no login.

I'll bet on OpenWRT as the web server interface is usually optional.
OpenWRT is normally configured from an SSH client. Try Putty.
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kato fong
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      08-09-2007, 09:24 PM
Jeff Liebermann a écrit :

> They could have just changed the default IP address:
> 1. Plug a comptah via ethernet into a LAN port #1. Don't try this
> via wireless as there's a setting to disable wireless config.
> 2. Set the computer to get it's IP address via DHCP (the default).
> 3. Wait a minute until the computer gets the IP address.
> 4. Start -> Run -> cmd <enter>
> ipconfig <enter>
> 5. The IP of the router is the IP address of the "default gatway"
>
> I'll assume it's 192.168.1.1.
> First try:
> http://192.168.1.1
> http://192.168.1.1/
> https://192.168.1.1
> and see if they work. If they don't try it again with the other 3 LAN
> ports. If the router is setup for a VLAN (a likely config for a
> wireless ISP), then each port might be individually configured to
> allow management.
>
> They may also have changed the default HTTP port from 80 to something
> else. Try 8080 or just scan the gateway IP with a port scanner to see
> what ports are open.
>
> If that doesn't work, try to telnet to the usualy managment port with:
> telnet 192.168.1.1 8080
> You can sometimes identify the OS by the telnet or SSH prompt. For
> exmple, my DD-WRT based router returns:
>
> DD-WRT v23 SP3 std (c) 2007 NewMedia-NET GmbH
> Release: 07/21/07 (SVN revision: 7509)
>
> DD-WRT login:
>
> If that doesn't work, try attacking the router with putty (an SSH
> client) and NMAP (a port scanner). I think these are above the
> ability of total beginners and you're stuck with helping.
>
> If the ISP was wise enough to keep people out of their routers, you
> can be sure they setup a proper password to enforce their TOS. You
> may end up with a connection, but no login.
>
> I'll bet on OpenWRT as the web server interface is usually optional.
> OpenWRT is normally configured from an SSH client. Try Putty.


Hi Jeff,

Thanks a lot for your helpful answer !

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