WRE54G Latest Firmware?

I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date because
it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed! Firmware
too large!"

Am I right?

"The Walrus" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
>latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date because
>it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed! Firmware
>too large!"
>
>Am I right?

No, it's not. According to the Linksys web pile at:
<http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayo ut&cid=1166859842852&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FV isitorWrapper&lid=4285237314B259&displaypage=downl oad#versiondetail>
2.01.12 is the latest firmware for the WRE54G.

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The Walrus wrote:
> I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
> latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date because
> it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed! Firmware
> too large!"
>
> Am I right?
>
>
Hi,
Forget Linksys f/w. Load dd-wrt one.

Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>"The Walrus" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
>>latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date because
>>it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed! Firmware
>>too large!"
>>
>>Am I right?
>
>No, it's not. According to the Linksys web pile at:
><http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayo ut&cid=1166859842852&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FV isitorWrapper&lid=4285237314B259&displaypage=downl oad#versiondetail>
>2.01.12 is the latest firmware for the WRE54G.

This is weird. This article:
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/29840/98/>
shows that 3.01.01 is the latest firmware for v3. The accompanying
picture also shows 3.01.01 dated Jan 2006.
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/images/stories/wireless/linksys_wrt54g_setup_revised/wre54g-setup-page8.jpg>

However, the 2.01.12 on the Linksys web pile is dated 3/30/2005.

Where did you find 3.01.01?

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Tony Hwang <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>The Walrus wrote:
>> I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
>> latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date because
>> it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed! Firmware
>> too large!"
>>
>> Am I right?
>>

>Hi,
>Forget Linksys f/w. Load dd-wrt one.

Are you sure that it DD-WRT works on the WRE54G (various revisions)?

It doesn't seem to be on the shopping list of supported devices:
<http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices>
Linksys does have open source code available for the v1 mutation, but
methinks the v2 and v3 versions use a different chipset and probably
won't work:
<http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Content_C1&childpagename=US%2FLayout &cid=1115416836002&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVis itorWrapper>

OpenWRT lists the WRE54G v1 as using a Broadcom chipset, but that the
firmware is "untested".
<http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware?action=show&redirect=toh>

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"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "The Walrus" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
>>latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date
>>because
>>it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed!
>>Firmware
>>too large!"
>>
>>Am I right?
>
> No, it's not. According to the Linksys web pile at:
> <http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayo ut&cid=1166859842852&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FV isitorWrapper&lid=4285237314B259&displaypage=downl oad#versiondetail>
> 2.01.12 is the latest firmware for the WRE54G.

Well, see how funny that is? Because on my WRE54G it clearly states the
firmware version is 3.01.01, dated January 12, 2006. The 2.01.12 to which
you refer is dated March of 2005. I made sure I chose the correct model and
version number, which is 3.

"Tony Hwang" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:W7_Ph.16232$aG1.2195@pd7urf3no...
> The Walrus wrote:
>> I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
>> latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date
>> because it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install
>> failed! Firmware too large!"
>>
>> Am I right?
>>
>>
> Hi,
> Forget Linksys f/w. Load dd-wrt one.

The thing is, I'm in a situation where I have to install these for other
people, which is why I made myself the guinea pig. I really cannot afford
to put myself in the position of having to take a return that has
non-LinkSys firmware installed, or to have it not being replaceable under
warranty if something goes wrong down the road.

I've learned enough that I could comfortably recommend the WRT54G and
WRT54GS routers for people in small- to medium-sized one story homes or
apartments. My house is a tad too long from one end to the other without
help from a range extender. I can say that the boost you get from a WRE54G
range extender is good only to within 15-20 of the PC, and it isn't worth a
shit going through walls. There has to be something better.

Having said all of that, does the firmware you refer to actually improve
throughput? And do they supply firmware for range extenders as well?

Thank you.

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Jeff Liebermann <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>
>>"The Walrus" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:
>>
>>>I have 3.01.01 on a version 3 router. Since I tried to flash with the
>>>latest on the LinkSys site I figured I must have the most up to date
>>>because
>>>it wouldn't install. I got the message: "Firmware install failed!
>>>Firmware
>>>too large!"
>>>
>>>Am I right?
>>
>>No, it's not. According to the Linksys web pile at:
>><http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayo ut&cid=1166859842852&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FV isitorWrapper&lid=4285237314B259&displaypage=downl oad#versiondetail>
>>2.01.12 is the latest firmware for the WRE54G.
>
> This is weird. This article:
> <http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/29840/98/>
> shows that 3.01.01 is the latest firmware for v3. The accompanying
> picture also shows 3.01.01 dated Jan 2006.
> <http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/images/stories/wireless/linksys_wrt54g_setup_revised/wre54g-setup-page8.jpg>
>
> However, the 2.01.12 on the Linksys web pile is dated 3/30/2005.
>
> Where did you find 3.01.01?

Installed on my expander.

"The Walrus" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>I've learned enough that I could comfortably recommend the WRT54G and
>WRT54GS routers for people in small- to medium-sized one story homes or
>apartments. My house is a tad too long from one end to the other without
>help from a range extender. I can say that the boost you get from a WRE54G
>range extender is good only to within 15-20 of the PC, and it isn't worth a
>shit going through walls. There has to be something better.

Since you're apparently selling this problem as a solution, allow me
to offer some free experience:
RANGE EXTENDERS AND REPEATERS SUCK
A marginal exception are WDS bridges (repeaters), which the WRE54G
sorta emulates. I consider repeaters to be no better than jammers. I
also consider store and forward (single channel) wi-fi mesh networks
in the same class. They all double the amount of airtime used by a
given system. This leaves less airtime for other users who have to
share the same airspace and channel. In addition, the lack of
sufficiently detailed standards and zero Wi-Fi certification for
repeaters, results in some rather rotten implimentations. I've spent
considerable effort trying to make them work including MAC level
parameter hacking trying to get the timing correct and staring at a
protocol analyzer all day. I could make it work for some
configurations, with some access points, at some speeds, and during
some phase of the moon, but there was no way I could conjur something
that would work under all conditions.

There is also the not so minor problem of a 50% minimum slowdown of
maximum thruput speed in such a repeater (or mesh system). Some light
reading.... bug me if you want details:
<http://he-colo.netgate.com/archives/00000072.htm>
<http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003972.html>
<http://black.csl.uiuc.edu/~prkumar/ps_files/exp.pdf>
Note that a repeater is just a two hop mesh network. Most users will
not notice the speed loss unless they are running at fairly slow
wireless speeds and have a fairly slow DSL connection. For example, a
1.5Mbit/sec DSL line will run without slowdown with a repeater down to
a wireless connection speed of about 6Mbits/sec. However, the latest
burstable cable modems running at 15Mbits/sec will require 60Mbits/sec
through a repeater which just isn't possible with todays wireless
devices.

In addition, there are alternatives that work well and can be sold
without doing battle with repeaters. Those are power line, phone
line, CATV coax, and fiber optics. Install one at the other end of
the house and you're done.

Power Line networking:
<http://www.homeplug.com>

Phone line networking:
<http://www.homepna.com>

CATV coax sharing:
<http://www.coaxsys.com>
<http://www.multilet.com>
<http://www.mocalliance.org> (sorta, maybe)

If you can run CAT5, simply installing a 2nd access point at the other
end of the house on a different channel is probably the best solution.

There are also aftermarket antennas, which will tailor the pattern to
the shape of the house and coverage area. However, for multiple
floors, I usually put one access point on each floor rather because
antennas with sufficient horizontal pattern do so at the expense of
vertical pattern. If you want to go cheap, there's also reflectors:
<http://www.freeantennas.com>

Anyway, given the problems and available alternatives, I suggest you
give up on selling repeaters as solutions.

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"The Walrus" <(E-Mail Removed)> hath wroth:

>> Where did you find 3.01.01?
>
>Installed on my expander.

Call Linksys support and ask for an explanation. It won't be the
first time they either miscounted their revision numbering, or posted
the wrong version firmware on their web pile. I would interested in
what they have to offer. I tried looking all over their ftp site and
found nothing.


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