wpa wireless hacked ?

Thought this might benefit a few people in here looks like wireless networks
not the way forward.

check out

http://www.crimemachine.com/Tuts/Flash/WPA.html

basically hacks a network in under 3mins.

Marky <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Thought this might benefit a few people in here looks like wireless networks
> not the way forward.

Running the appropriate VPN over your network, and it's just fine.

In article <430a4bd2$0$97115$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Thought this might benefit a few people in here looks like wireless networks
> not the way forward.
>
> check out
>
> http://www.crimemachine.com/Tuts/Flash/WPA.html
>
> basically hacks a network in under 3mins.
>
>
>
>

This would appear to come down to a crux of brute forcing the PSK - if
you set something secure in the region of 20 - 50 alphanumeric
characters I can't see the same method working.

--
Alex Crosby

Marky wrote:
> Thought this might benefit a few people in here looks like wireless networks
> not the way forward.

Knee jerk reaction, look at what it _actually_ does ..........

> basically hacks a network in under 3mins.

A network with a PSK of 12345678 ... now that wouldn't be too hard for
someone to simply sit outside and try guessing it. If a decent PSK is
set then I doubt they'd have the same speed of 'cracking'.

Seems like it's a shit load of shit they're trying to sell that simply
brute force 'guesses' a PSK, which doesn't worry me, and shouldn't worry
many other people with even small levels of computer literacy too much
at all.

--
The Caretaker .........

"The Caretaker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:LvAOe.54$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Marky wrote:
> > Thought this might benefit a few people in here looks like wireless
networks
> > not the way forward.
>
> Knee jerk reaction, look at what it _actually_ does ..........
>
> > basically hacks a network in under 3mins.
>
> A network with a PSK of 12345678 ... now that wouldn't be too hard for
> someone to simply sit outside and try guessing it. If a decent PSK is
> set then I doubt they'd have the same speed of 'cracking'.
>
> Seems like it's a shit load of shit they're trying to sell that simply
> brute force 'guesses' a PSK, which doesn't worry me, and shouldn't worry
> many other people with even small levels of computer literacy too much
> at all.
>
> --
> The Caretaker .........

If it's made by humans it can be 'cracked' by humans !

(it just takes the right 'tools' + a little time ;-) )

Dave, (grey hat hacker)

Dave <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> "The Caretaker" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:LvAOe.54$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Marky wrote:
>> > Thought this might benefit a few people in here looks like wireless
> networks
>> > not the way forward.
>>
>> Knee jerk reaction, look at what it _actually_ does ..........
>>
>> > basically hacks a network in under 3mins.
>>
>> A network with a PSK of 12345678 ... now that wouldn't be too hard for
>> someone to simply sit outside and try guessing it. If a decent PSK is
>> set then I doubt they'd have the same speed of 'cracking'.

> If it's made by humans it can be 'cracked' by humans !
>
> (it just takes the right 'tools' + a little time ;-) )

Not true.
As an example, good luck cracking a one-time-pad.

Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:430ae9ff$0$22909
$(E-Mail Removed):

> As an example, good luck cracking a one-time-pad.

You can crack a one time pad, you just don't know which output is the right
one :0)

--
Colin
*Drop DEAD from the email address to reply*

cw wrote:
> Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:430ae9ff$0$22909
> $(E-Mail Removed):
>
>
>>As an example, good luck cracking a one-time-pad.
>
>
> You can crack a one time pad, you just don't know which output is the right
> one :0)
>

They all are.....



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Brian Morrison

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cw wrote:
> Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in news:430ae9ff$0$22909
> $(E-Mail Removed):
>
>
>>As an example, good luck cracking a one-time-pad.
>
>
> You can crack a one time pad, you just don't know which output is the right
> one :0)
>

See <http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/papers/otp-faq/> or
Google for "Venona OTP"
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Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney
<www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont>