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WPA-AES = WPA2 ?

 
 
Radoslav Sirota
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      12-20-2005, 08:08 AM
Hello,

I have one question about WPA2. Are WPA compatible devices that use AES
instead of TKIP WPA2 compatible? I don't think so, but some people told me
so. So can anyone clear this issue for me?

Thanks

Radoslav


 
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Quaoar
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      12-20-2005, 12:36 PM
Radoslav Sirota wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have one question about WPA2. Are WPA compatible devices that use
> AES instead of TKIP WPA2 compatible? I don't think so, but some
> people told me so. So can anyone clear this issue for me?
>
> Thanks
>
> Radoslav


Go to the source: http://www.wi-fi.org/OpenSection/protected_access.asp

From the English Q&A:

5. Q: How are WPAT and WPA2 similar?
A: Both WPA and WPA2 offer a high level of assurance for end-users and
network administrators that their data will remain private and access to
their network restricted to authorized users.

Both utilize 802.1X and Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) for
authentication. Both have Personal and Enterprise modes of operation
that meet the distinct needs of the different consumer and enterprise
market segments.

6. Q: How are WPA and WPA2 different?

A: WPA2 provides a stronger encryption mechanism through Advanced
Encryption Standard (AES), which is a requirement for some corporate and
government users.


 
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Jerry Park
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      12-20-2005, 01:28 PM
Radoslav Sirota wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I have one question about WPA2. Are WPA compatible devices that use AES
>instead of TKIP WPA2 compatible? I don't think so, but some people told me
>so. So can anyone clear this issue for me?
>
>Thanks
>
>Radoslav
>
>
>
>

There does seem to be some difference in WPA2 and WPA which extends
beyond AES usage. Routers now have options for WPA with and without AES
and also WPA2 with or without AES. So AES encryption is not the only
diffenence. It is not at all clear to me, but I believe that WPA
incorporates some of the 802.11i standards but was developed before the
802.11i standards were finalized. So perhaps WPA has slightly weaker
authentication?
 
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Toxic Boy
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      12-20-2005, 11:53 PM
"Radoslav Sirota" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > Hello,
> Are WPA compatible devices that use AES

instead of TKIP WPA2 compatible?

I thought wpa2 was AES. How are you getting wpa to work with aes? You
shouldn't be able to. It should only work with tkip. WPA 2 devices should
have a setting to go with wpa tkip. I have a linksys router, a dlink router,
and a linksys usb adapter. I also have a built in non-standard wireless
adapter in my laptop that I do not use because it will only work under the
wpa tkip setting. Now if I set my router under WPA tlik, there is no
problem.

So the simple and direct question to your answer is .....no.


 
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Toxic Boy
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      12-21-2005, 02:01 AM
>"So the simple and direct question to your answer is .">

That should read "answer to your question." Ooops.


 
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Radoslav Sirota
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      12-23-2005, 08:50 AM
I've got ASUS 107g PCMCIA that does not support WPA2 (according to
datasheet), but I am able to select WPA with AES encryption instead of TKIP.
I am using it with ASUS WL-500g deluxe running OpenWRT - with the same
combination of WPA and AES.

So this is the reason why I am confused, becouse I thought that WPA uses
TKIP and WPA2 AES.

Thanks

Radoslav


"Toxic Boy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:CF1qf.5970$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Radoslav Sirota" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > Hello,
>> Are WPA compatible devices that use AES

> instead of TKIP WPA2 compatible?
>
> I thought wpa2 was AES. How are you getting wpa to work with aes? You
> shouldn't be able to. It should only work with tkip. WPA 2 devices should
> have a setting to go with wpa tkip. I have a linksys router, a dlink
> router, and a linksys usb adapter. I also have a built in non-standard
> wireless adapter in my laptop that I do not use because it will only work
> under the wpa tkip setting. Now if I set my router under WPA tlik, there
> is no problem.
>
> So the simple and direct question to your answer is .....no.
>



 
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Gofer Jones
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      12-23-2005, 01:56 PM
And you're still able to connect with the network? If so, then go into your
router properties and see what is has the connection listed as. In my
properties, it says wpa tkip even if I set it in Windows to be AES.

<....., becouse I thought that WPA uses
TKIP and WPA2 AES.>

That is still right.

"Radoslav Sirota" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:43abc8b4$0$1770$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I've got ASUS 107g PCMCIA that does not support WPA2 (according to
> datasheet), but I am able to select WPA with AES encryption instead of
> TKIP. I am using it with ASUS WL-500g deluxe running OpenWRT - with the
> same combination of WPA and AES.
>
> So this is the reason why I am confused, becouse I thought that WPA uses
> TKIP and WPA2 AES.
>
> Thanks
>
> Radoslav
>
>
> "Toxic Boy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:CF1qf.5970$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "Radoslav Sirota" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message > Hello,
>>> Are WPA compatible devices that use AES

>> instead of TKIP WPA2 compatible?
>>
>> I thought wpa2 was AES. How are you getting wpa to work with aes? You
>> shouldn't be able to. It should only work with tkip. WPA 2 devices should
>> have a setting to go with wpa tkip. I have a linksys router, a dlink
>> router, and a linksys usb adapter. I also have a built in non-standard
>> wireless adapter in my laptop that I do not use because it will only work
>> under the wpa tkip setting. Now if I set my router under WPA tlik, there
>> is no problem.
>>
>> So the simple and direct question to your answer is .....no.
>>

>
>



 
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