about wlan service of vista

Hi,

I installed the vista home Premium version,
and I have a realtek rtl8185L wireless card,driver is microsoft version.
when I disable the wlan service and reboot,
I find the rtl8185L is disable, it is strange.
who know the reason?
If I want to use rtl8185L wireless card, I must start wlan service?

in vista, wireless card must use wlan service?


lee
03-19

Hi
Most Wireless cards come with their own utility and you have a choice you
can use the manufacturer utility or Vista WZC, but Not both.
If the card did not come with its own utility you must use the WZC.
If you do use WZC make sure that it is set for auto start.
This page was written for WinXP it is the same principle in Vista, find the
similar menus in Vista and start the WZC service and out it to Auto Start.
Few useful links for Wirlees issues.
My Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"securelee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> I installed the vista home Premium version,
> and I have a realtek rtl8185L wireless card,driver is microsoft version.
> when I disable the wlan service and reboot,
> I find the rtl8185L is disable, it is strange.
> who know the reason?
> If I want to use rtl8185L wireless card, I must start wlan service?
>
> in vista, wireless card must use wlan service?
>
>
> lee
> 03-19
>
>

"securelee" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed the vista home Premium version,
> and I have a realtek rtl8185L wireless card,driver is microsoft version.
> when I disable the wlan service and reboot,
> I find the rtl8185L is disable, it is strange.
> who know the reason?
> If I want to use rtl8185L wireless card, I must start wlan service?
>
> in vista, wireless card must use wlan service?

Yes, in Vista the wireless service is the only way to operate a WLAN device.
You can develop your own plugins to this service, create profiles and so on.

Regards,
--PA

Hi, Pavel A

Thanks.
If I develop a filter driver or im driver on vista, so I can query/set all
OID_DOT11_XYZ.
then can I manage the wlan device(wireless card) , for example associate to
AP
and do 802.1x authentication without ms wlan service ?

lee
03-20


"Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:BC378091-8FDB-42BE-B6A7-(E-Mail Removed)...
> "securelee" wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I installed the vista home Premium version,
>> and I have a realtek rtl8185L wireless card,driver is microsoft version.
>> when I disable the wlan service and reboot,
>> I find the rtl8185L is disable, it is strange.
>> who know the reason?
>> If I want to use rtl8185L wireless card, I must start wlan service?
>>
>> in vista, wireless card must use wlan service?
>
> Yes, in Vista the wireless service is the only way to operate a WLAN
> device.
> You can develop your own plugins to this service, create profiles and so
> on.
>
> Regards,
> --PA
>

Hi, Jack

Thanks.
I know on xp MS permit other tools(like odyssey client, aegis client,
wpa_supplicant) to manage wireless card. but on vista, MS permit other tools
to manage wireless card?
Pavel A told me that only wlan service can manage the wireless device on
vista.
I don't find the information on microsoft.com or msdn.com .
can you told me the result?

lee
03-20


"Jack (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:(E-Mail Removed). ..
> Hi
> Most Wireless cards come with their own utility and you have a choice you
> can use the manufacturer utility or Vista WZC, but Not both.
> If the card did not come with its own utility you must use the WZC.
> If you do use WZC make sure that it is set for auto start.
> This page was written for WinXP it is the same principle in Vista, find
> the similar menus in Vista and start the WZC service and out it to Auto
> Start.
> Few useful links for Wirlees issues.
> My Wireless does not work - http://www.ezlan.net/wireless.html
> Wireless, Basic Configuration - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Config.html
> Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html
> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> "securelee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I installed the vista home Premium version,
>> and I have a realtek rtl8185L wireless card,driver is microsoft version.
>> when I disable the wlan service and reboot,
>> I find the rtl8185L is disable, it is strange.
>> who know the reason?
>> If I want to use rtl8185L wireless card, I must start wlan service?
>>
>> in vista, wireless card must use wlan service?
>>
>>
>> lee
>> 03-19
>>
>>
>
>

"securelee" wrote:
> Hi, Pavel A
>
> Thanks.
> If I develop a filter driver or im driver on vista, so I can query/set all
> OID_DOT11_XYZ.
> then can I manage the wlan device(wireless card) , for example associate to
> AP
> and do 802.1x authentication without ms wlan service ?

Please read up here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa816369.aspx
( note: this is the new API - you won't need any OIDs )

Regards,
--PA

Hi, Pavel A

Thanks.
do you mean that on vista MS doesn't permit other tools to manage wireless
card?
we know on xp MS permit other tools(like odyssey client, aegis client,
wpa_supplicant) to manage wireless card.
on vista "Native Wifi API " must be used for wireless card manage?

lee
03-20


"Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:C5E2EFC7-FC15-4D40-9B29-(E-Mail Removed)...
> "securelee" wrote:
>> Hi, Pavel A
>>
>> Thanks.
>> If I develop a filter driver or im driver on vista, so I can query/set
>> all
>> OID_DOT11_XYZ.
>> then can I manage the wlan device(wireless card) , for example associate
>> to
>> AP
>> and do 802.1x authentication without ms wlan service ?
>
> Please read up here:
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa816369.aspx
> ( note: this is the new API - you won't need any OIDs )
>
> Regards,
> --PA
>
>

"securelee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, Pavel A
>
> Thanks.
> do you mean that on vista MS doesn't permit other tools to manage wireless card?
> we know on xp MS permit other tools(like odyssey client, aegis client,
> wpa_supplicant) to manage wireless card.
> on vista "Native Wifi API " must be used for wireless card manage?
>
> lee
> 03-20

Yes, the way how you write these tools has been radically changed.
Older XP utilities replaced the WLAN service (either by disabling it on the specific
adapter, or by clobbering it entirely ).
The new Vista compatible utilities use the API to drive the WLAN service and
make it do what they want. One example of this new crop of wireless
clients is Lenovo Active Connections. However, the supplicant on XP is
still not extensible, as it is on Vista.

--PA

>
> "Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:C5E2EFC7-FC15-4D40-9B29-(E-Mail Removed)...
>> "securelee" wrote:
>>> Hi, Pavel A
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> If I develop a filter driver or im driver on vista, so I can query/set all
>>> OID_DOT11_XYZ.
>>> then can I manage the wlan device(wireless card) , for example associate to
>>> AP
>>> and do 802.1x authentication without ms wlan service ?
>>
>> Please read up here: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa816369.aspx
>> ( note: this is the new API - you won't need any OIDs )
>>
>> Regards,
>> --PA
>>
>>
>
>

Pavel A,

I see, Thanks.

Lee
03-21

"Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:(E-Mail Removed) ...
> "securelee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%23%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi, Pavel A
>>
>> Thanks.
>> do you mean that on vista MS doesn't permit other tools to manage
>> wireless card?
>> we know on xp MS permit other tools(like odyssey client, aegis client,
>> wpa_supplicant) to manage wireless card.
>> on vista "Native Wifi API " must be used for wireless card manage?
>>
>> lee
>> 03-20
>
> Yes, the way how you write these tools has been radically changed.
> Older XP utilities replaced the WLAN service (either by disabling it on
> the specific
> adapter, or by clobbering it entirely ).
> The new Vista compatible utilities use the API to drive the WLAN service
> and
> make it do what they want. One example of this new crop of wireless
> clients is Lenovo Active Connections. However, the supplicant on XP is
> still not extensible, as it is on Vista.
>
> --PA
>
>>
>> "Pavel A." <(E-Mail Removed)> дÈëÏûÏ¢ÐÂÎÅ:C5E2EFC7-FC15-4D40-9B29-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> "securelee" wrote:
>>>> Hi, Pavel A
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> If I develop a filter driver or im driver on vista, so I can query/set
>>>> all
>>>> OID_DOT11_XYZ.
>>>> then can I manage the wlan device(wireless card) , for example
>>>> associate to
>>>> AP
>>>> and do 802.1x authentication without ms wlan service ?
>>>
>>> Please read up here:
>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa816369.aspx
>>> ( note: this is the new API - you won't need any OIDs )
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --PA
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>