wireless setup query

I have a netgear wireless router (set to open/wep) that has an Ethernet
connection to one of my laptops (xp). Also connected wirelessly is an
old laptop (win98) and another laptop (vista). My problem is that when
I try to connect my laptop that has xp wirelessly no matter what
configuration I try I can't seem to get it to work. Looked at the
Network connections page and have got the following setup:

Network Bridge:
1394 connection
enabled, bridged
1394 net adapter #2

Local area connection
Network cable unplugged (taken Ethernet cable out)

Network bridge (network bridge) 2
Enabled
Mac bridge miniport

Wireless network connection 2
wireless connection unavailable

When I click on 'advanced' I can sometimes see my 'ssid' but most of the
time it has a 'red' bar across it. Occasionally after selecting
different options it has a 'blue' circle a the top - but still shows up
as unconnected in the network connections page.
Not quite sure why I have the 'network bridge' setup as there isn't
anything like on my 'vista' laptop. - I can view 'shared' files on
either laptops (perhaps that's the reason?).

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thankyou
--
Des

Get rid of the bridged connection first. It should not be there. Rightclick
on one of the bridged connections,...the option to remove it should be on
the popup menu. Since bridging requires two interfaces it should
automatically remove from the last one.

Once that is cleaned up go to the wireless nic and find the option to "View
available wirless networks". Choose the SSID when it shows up. Enter the
WEP Key.

Strongly recommend you move from WEP to WPA (any variant).


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Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I have a netgear wireless router (set to open/wep) that has an Ethernet
>connection to one of my laptops (xp). Also connected wirelessly is an old
>laptop (win98) and another laptop (vista). My problem is that when I try
>to connect my laptop that has xp wirelessly no matter what configuration I
>try I can't seem to get it to work. Looked at the Network connections page
>and have got the following setup:
>
> Network Bridge:
> 1394 connection
> enabled, bridged
> 1394 net adapter #2
>
> Local area connection
> Network cable unplugged (taken Ethernet cable out)
>
> Network bridge (network bridge) 2
> Enabled
> Mac bridge miniport
>
> Wireless network connection 2
> wireless connection unavailable
>
> When I click on 'advanced' I can sometimes see my 'ssid' but most of the
> time it has a 'red' bar across it. Occasionally after selecting
> different options it has a 'blue' circle a the top - but still shows up as
> unconnected in the network connections page.
> Not quite sure why I have the 'network bridge' setup as there isn't
> anything like on my 'vista' laptop. - I can view 'shared' files on either
> laptops (perhaps that's the reason?).
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Thankyou
> --
> Des

Hi
1394 is Firewire socket. If you do not need it Disable it and it will not
create a bridge any more.
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I have a netgear wireless router (set to open/wep) that has an Ethernet
>connection to one of my laptops (xp). Also connected wirelessly is an old
>laptop (win98) and another laptop (vista). My problem is that when I try
>to connect my laptop that has xp wirelessly no matter what configuration I
>try I can't seem to get it to work. Looked at the Network connections page
>and have got the following setup:
>
> Network Bridge:
> 1394 connection
> enabled, bridged
> 1394 net adapter #2
>
> Local area connection
> Network cable unplugged (taken Ethernet cable out)
>
> Network bridge (network bridge) 2
> Enabled
> Mac bridge miniport
>
> Wireless network connection 2
> wireless connection unavailable
>
> When I click on 'advanced' I can sometimes see my 'ssid' but most of the
> time it has a 'red' bar across it. Occasionally after selecting
> different options it has a 'blue' circle a the top - but still shows up as
> unconnected in the network connections page.
> Not quite sure why I have the 'network bridge' setup as there isn't
> anything like on my 'vista' laptop. - I can view 'shared' files on either
> laptops (perhaps that's the reason?).
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Thankyou
> --
> Des

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Phillip Windell
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Get rid of the bridged connection first. It should not be there. Rightclick
>on one of the bridged connections,...the option to remove it should be on
>the popup menu. Since bridging requires two interfaces it should
>automatically remove from the last one.
>
Removed
>Once that is cleaned up go to the wireless nic and find the option to "View
>available wirless networks". Choose the SSID when it shows up. Enter the
>WEP Key.
>
Still had the problem - 'ssid' was circled in both available & preferred
but kept connecting to my neighbours router. Then I added my mac
address for wireless onto my router and now works fine.

Thanks
>Strongly recommend you move from WEP to WPA (any variant).
>
>
I've got a couple of pda's (hp4150 & HP4700) that use wm2003/se. Had
problems connecting the hp4150 to the router when I had it set to wpa.
That's why I think it's set to wep
--
Des

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jack
(MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>Hi
>1394 is Firewire socket. If you do not need it Disable it and it will
>not create a bridge any more.
>Jack (MVP-Networking).

Thanks............Now working OK
>
>"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>I have a netgear wireless router (set to open/wep) that has an
>>Ethernet connection to one of my laptops (xp). Also connected
>>wirelessly is an old laptop (win98) and another laptop (vista). My
>>problem is that when I try to connect my laptop that has xp wirelessly
>>no matter what configuration I try I can't seem to get it to work.
>>Looked at the Network connections page and have got the following setup:
>>
>> Network Bridge:
>> 1394 connection
>> enabled, bridged
>> 1394 net adapter #2
>>
>> Local area connection
>> Network cable unplugged (taken Ethernet cable out)
>>
>> Network bridge (network bridge) 2
>> Enabled
>> Mac bridge miniport
>>
>> Wireless network connection 2
>> wireless connection unavailable
>>
>> When I click on 'advanced' I can sometimes see my 'ssid' but most of
>>the time it has a 'red' bar across it. Occasionally after selecting
>>different options it has a 'blue' circle a the top - but still shows
>>up as unconnected in the network connections page.
>> Not quite sure why I have the 'network bridge' setup as there isn't
>>anything like on my 'vista' laptop. - I can view 'shared' files on
>>either laptops (perhaps that's the reason?).
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thankyou
>> -- Des
>

--
Des

"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jack
> (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>Hi
>>1394 is Firewire socket. If you do not need it Disable it and it will not
>>create a bridge any more.
>>Jack (MVP-Networking).
>
> Thanks............Now working OK

You told me you removed the bridging and still had the problem. So what's
the story?
Disabling the 1394 Connection will prevent it from bridging but it should
not need disabled for the wireless to work,..just don't have it bridged
that's all. The laptop I am typing this from is using Wireless (with
WPA),...has the 1394 Connection enabled, but not bridged,..everything is
fine.

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Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Phillip Windell
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, "Jack
>> (MVP-Networking)." <(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>>>Hi
>>>1394 is Firewire socket. If you do not need it Disable it and it will not
>>>create a bridge any more.
>>>Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>> Thanks............Now working OK
>
>You told me you removed the bridging and still had the problem. So what's
>the story?

Disabled & then removed bridging but still couldn't access the Internet.
Had to type my wireless mac address onto my router settings then it
worked.
>Disabling the 1394 Connection will prevent it from bridging but it should
>not need disabled for the wireless to work,..just don't have it bridged
>that's all. The laptop I am typing this from is using Wireless (with
>WPA),...has the 1394 Connection enabled, but not bridged,..everything is
>fine.
>
Thankyou
--
Des

"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Disabled & then removed bridging but still couldn't access the Internet.
> Had to type my wireless mac address onto my router settings then it
> worked.

Ok. That means you have MAC filtering enabled on the device and you had not
entered the correct MACs to the allow list. That was effectively your
trouble all along.

In message <(E-Mail Removed)>, Phillip Windell
<(E-Mail Removed)> writes
>"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:nTy61sAAZlfIFwW+@dollars.demon.co.uk...
>
>> Disabled & then removed bridging but still couldn't access the Internet.
>> Had to type my wireless mac address onto my router settings then it
>> worked.
>
>Ok. That means you have MAC filtering enabled on the device and you had not
>entered the correct MACs to the allow list. That was effectively your
>trouble all along.
>
>
>
It wasn't a case of incorrect MAC - It was just that I hadn't entered
the wireless details of the laptop. Just had the MAC of the laptop
entered. I was just surprised that I had to enter it in the first place
to communicate with my router. Though that just by entering the wep
keys should be enough to get me connected.


--
Des

"Person" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> entered. I was just surprised that I had to enter it in the first place
> to communicate with my router.

You wouldn't. That is my point. You have MAC Filtering enabled,...which
normally isn't. When it is enabled you have to give it a list of allowed
MACs or nothing works. Disable the filtering, and MACs become irrelevant,
which is the normal way since large LANs don't want to inventory all the
MACs and try to keep the Allow List current for hundreds of machines on
possibly multiple wireless devices.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
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