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Stone Free
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      07-15-2004, 11:51 AM
I am interested in setting up a wireless network as part of my PVR
solution. I want the PVR located next to the TV (Duh!) and it will get
its TV listings from digiguide.

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Possibility 1:

Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
room.
Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card

Possibility 2:
As above, but connect PC in Bedroom using a PCI ADSL Modem (Turning off
Router when using Bedroom PC)

Possibility 3+:
Anything you intelligent people suggest



Peter



 
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Ian Stirling
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      07-15-2004, 01:19 PM
In uk.telecom.broadband Stone Free <spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I am interested in setting up a wireless network as part of my PVR
> solution. I want the PVR located next to the TV (Duh!) and it will get
> its TV listings from digiguide.
>
> Here is some ASCII art illustrating the situation:
> __________________________________________________ ___________
> | TV+PC PVR |\
> | | \

<snip.
> Possibility 1:
>
> Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
> room.
> Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
> Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card


What is the compositoin of the wall between the living room and bedroom.

I'd say this is your best option, if wireless works OK.

>
> Possibility 2:
> As above, but connect PC in Bedroom using a PCI ADSL Modem (Turning off
> Router when using Bedroom PC)

You'll probably need to unplug it.
>
> Possibility 3+:
> Anything you intelligent people suggest


Me, I'd stick wires in.
But then you probably don't have a 100m reel of cable sitting.
 
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      07-15-2004, 02:00 PM
Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
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>> Possibility 1:
>>
>> Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
>> room.
>> Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
>> Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card

>
> What is the compositoin of the wall between the living room and
> bedroom.

It is stud partition plasterboard.


> I'd say this is your best option, if wireless works OK.
>
>>
>> Possibility 2:
>> As above, but connect PC in Bedroom using a PCI ADSL Modem (Turning
>> off Router when using Bedroom PC)

> You'll probably need to unplug it.
>>
>> Possibility 3+:
>> Anything you intelligent people suggest

>
> Me, I'd stick wires in.
> But then you probably don't have a 100m reel of cable sitting.
>

No, your right I dont
 
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Ian Stirling
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      07-15-2004, 02:25 PM
In uk.telecom.broadband Stone Free <spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> news:40f6846b$0$92635$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>>> Possibility 1:
>>>
>>> Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
>>> room.
>>> Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
>>> Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card

>>
>> What is the compositoin of the wall between the living room and
>> bedroom.

> It is stud partition plasterboard.
>


In that case, it should almost certainly work fine.
Ensure any PCI cards that you use have antennas that can be seperated
out a bit from the card, on a short bit of cable.
Otherwise, you can run into problems with the PCs shielding the signal.
>
>> I'd say this is your best option, if wireless works OK.
>>
>>>
>>> Possibility 2:
>>> As above, but connect PC in Bedroom using a PCI ADSL Modem (Turning
>>> off Router when using Bedroom PC)

>> You'll probably need to unplug it.
>>>
>>> Possibility 3+:
>>> Anything you intelligent people suggest

>>
>> Me, I'd stick wires in.
>> But then you probably don't have a 100m reel of cable sitting.
>>

> No, your right I dont

 
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Rob Morley
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      07-15-2004, 07:20 PM
In article <40f693f6$0$39734$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Ian
Stirling" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> In uk.telecom.broadband Stone Free <spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> > news:40f6846b$0$92635$(E-Mail Removed):
> >
> >>> Possibility 1:
> >>>
> >>> Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
> >>> room.
> >>> Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
> >>> Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card
> >>
> >> What is the compositoin of the wall between the living room and
> >> bedroom.

> > It is stud partition plasterboard.
> >

>
> In that case, it should almost certainly work fine.


Unless the plasterboard is foil backed.
 
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Ian Stirling
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      07-15-2004, 09:42 PM
In uk.telecom.broadband Rob Morley <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> In article <40f693f6$0$39734$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Ian
> Stirling" (E-Mail Removed) says...
>> In uk.telecom.broadband Stone Free <spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> > Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
>> > news:40f6846b$0$92635$(E-Mail Removed):
>> >
>> >>> Possibility 1:
>> >>>
>> >>> Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
>> >>> room.
>> >>> Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
>> >>> Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card
>> >>
>> >> What is the compositoin of the wall between the living room and
>> >> bedroom.
>> > It is stud partition plasterboard.
>> >

>>
>> In that case, it should almost certainly work fine.

>
> Unless the plasterboard is foil backed.


Hence the almost.
Is it probable that an interior stud wall would be foil backed.
I thought it was most common in external walls.
Of course it's possible.
 
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      07-15-2004, 11:05 PM
In article <40f6fa45$0$241$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Ian
Stirling" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> In uk.telecom.broadband Rob Morley <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> > In article <40f693f6$0$39734$(E-Mail Removed)>, "Ian
> > Stirling" (E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> In uk.telecom.broadband Stone Free <spam_KillKillKillstone_freeNoSpamPleaseWereBritis (E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >> > Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
> >> > news:40f6846b$0$92635$(E-Mail Removed):
> >> >
> >> >>> Possibility 1:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Buy Netgear DG834G ADSL Modem/Router/Wireless Access point in living
> >> >>> room.
> >> >>> Connect PVR in Living room with PCI WiFi Card
> >> >>> Connect PC in Bedroom with PCI WiFi Card
> >> >>
> >> >> What is the compositoin of the wall between the living room and
> >> >> bedroom.
> >> > It is stud partition plasterboard.
> >> >
> >>
> >> In that case, it should almost certainly work fine.

> >
> > Unless the plasterboard is foil backed.

>
> Hence the almost.
> Is it probable that an interior stud wall would be foil backed.


I wouldn't have thought so, but I've heard of it happening.

> I thought it was most common in external walls.


That's where it makes most sense.

> Of course it's possible.
>

Especially if the builders have some left over :-)
 
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      07-23-2004, 03:55 PM
Ian Stirling <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:40f693f6$0$39734$(E-Mail Removed):
>
> In that case, it should almost certainly work fine.
> Ensure any PCI cards that you use have antennas that can be seperated
> out a bit from the card, on a short bit of cable.
> Otherwise, you can run into problems with the PCs shielding the
> signal.
>>
>>> I'd say this is your best option, if wireless works OK.

I am thinking of buying the equipment from amazon, but I am still not
sure which PCI card to get. The Linksys Wireless-G PCI Adapter for £36
says it has a "Detachable Antenna" but the picture in amazon shows it
connected and I dont know if it will come with any cable.

I had a quick look in PC World (not for the prices obviously!) but I
could only see a Belkin 11b card showing one with cable and an aerial.

Is there one that you would recommend, or would I need to buy some sort
of cable for the Linksys adapter?

One bit I left out was I would like to place the router on a table under
the sloping roof. Will it matter that it isnt placed high up as I am
only needing wireless access over one floor, as it is a flat.

At a pinch I could put it in the bedroom if it could be mounted on the
wall, but I would not like to have to put up a shelf.


Thanks
 
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