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trs80
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      05-16-2005, 03:29 AM
I installed a Linksys WRT54GS and notice the mouse becuase intermittent
after I installed it. I changed the batteries in the mouse and it was still
intermittent. When I move the mouse recevier close to the mouse the problem
when away. When I moved the receiver back to original spot the problem
returned.

Are there issue with wireless routers interferring with wireless mouse?
Even though at different frequencies I would guess there could be bleed over
into mouse reviever from a strong router signal.

Any experience with this issue.? Its a Microsoft wireless mouse.

thanks for any input


 
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Joseph Stewart
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      05-16-2005, 04:25 PM
You might try changing the router's channel, move it at least three numbers
from wherever it is now (probably 11).

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"trs80" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>I installed a Linksys WRT54GS and notice the mouse becuase intermittent
>after I installed it. I changed the batteries in the mouse and it was
>still intermittent. When I move the mouse recevier close to the mouse the
>problem when away. When I moved the receiver back to original spot the
>problem returned.
>
> Are there issue with wireless routers interferring with wireless mouse?
> Even though at different frequencies I would guess there could be bleed
> over into mouse reviever from a strong router signal.
>
> Any experience with this issue.? Its a Microsoft wireless mouse.
>
> thanks for any input
>
>



 
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Jeff Liebermann
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      05-16-2005, 06:17 PM
On Sun, 15 May 2005 20:29:43 -0700, "trs80" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I installed a Linksys WRT54GS and notice the mouse becuase intermittent
>after I installed it. I changed the batteries in the mouse and it was still
>intermittent. When I move the mouse recevier close to the mouse the problem
>when away. When I moved the receiver back to original spot the problem
>returned.


What happens when you move the mouse receiver away from the WRT54G?

>Are there issue with wireless routers interferring with wireless mouse?
>Even though at different frequencies I would guess there could be bleed over
>into mouse reviever from a strong router signal.
>
>Any experience with this issue.? Its a Microsoft wireless mouse.


The MS Mouse run on about 27MHz. The WRT54GS runs at 2400MHz. In
theory, there should be no interference.

I have several customers with the new MS wireless mouse and keyboard
combination. The range sucks. I can get totally reliable performance
from the older units, or from Logitech systems, up to at least 6 ft.
The new MS devices will barely penetrate a 3/4" oak desk, barely work
to 3ft, and acts flakey. It also has a very fast "sleep" mode to save
power that causes erratic startup behavior. I found that I had to put
the receiver almost in front of the monitor for it to work. On other
wireless keyboards and mice, I could hide the receiver almost anywhere
on or under the desk. I was not impressed.

The lack for range and sensitivity may be intentional. It's always a
problem to have a mess of wireless keyboards and mice in one office.
Although one mouse will not take over a different machines system,
they do interfere with each other by creating erratic behavior. By
reducing the range and sensitivity, they probably throught they could
increase the number of systems allowed in one area. Same with the
aggressive sleep mode. It improves battery life, even if it drives
the user nuts.

The typical mouse receiver is a joke. The receiver is not very
sensitive, but almost any strong RF signal will cause it to go into
"blocking". Blocking is where the receiver input stage is saturated
with enough RF to cause rectification, effectively turning it off. My
guess is that the beacon transmissions from the access point are
trashing the mouse receiver in this manner.

The problem can also appear at the mouse transmitter end. Shove
enough RF into the transmitter, and it too can rectify the RF, causing
it to shut off. This is less common, but still possible.

Lastly, the wall wart power supply for the WRT54GS might be a
switching supply causing RFI and EMI that is being received by the
mouse receiver. If the wall wart is a small comparatively light
weight unit, it's a switcher. The WRT54G will run on any wall wart
from 5VDC to perhaps 15VDC (negative ground) so you might try a
different wall wart.



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      05-17-2005, 01:46 AM
thats good input ...thanks!

"Jeff Liebermann" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 15 May 2005 20:29:43 -0700, "trs80" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>I installed a Linksys WRT54GS and notice the mouse becuase intermittent
>>after I installed it. I changed the batteries in the mouse and it was
>>still
>>intermittent. When I move the mouse recevier close to the mouse the
>>problem
>>when away. When I moved the receiver back to original spot the problem
>>returned.

>
> What happens when you move the mouse receiver away from the WRT54G?
>
>>Are there issue with wireless routers interferring with wireless mouse?
>>Even though at different frequencies I would guess there could be bleed
>>over
>>into mouse reviever from a strong router signal.
>>
>>Any experience with this issue.? Its a Microsoft wireless mouse.

>
> The MS Mouse run on about 27MHz. The WRT54GS runs at 2400MHz. In
> theory, there should be no interference.
>
> I have several customers with the new MS wireless mouse and keyboard
> combination. The range sucks. I can get totally reliable performance
> from the older units, or from Logitech systems, up to at least 6 ft.
> The new MS devices will barely penetrate a 3/4" oak desk, barely work
> to 3ft, and acts flakey. It also has a very fast "sleep" mode to save
> power that causes erratic startup behavior. I found that I had to put
> the receiver almost in front of the monitor for it to work. On other
> wireless keyboards and mice, I could hide the receiver almost anywhere
> on or under the desk. I was not impressed.
>
> The lack for range and sensitivity may be intentional. It's always a
> problem to have a mess of wireless keyboards and mice in one office.
> Although one mouse will not take over a different machines system,
> they do interfere with each other by creating erratic behavior. By
> reducing the range and sensitivity, they probably throught they could
> increase the number of systems allowed in one area. Same with the
> aggressive sleep mode. It improves battery life, even if it drives
> the user nuts.
>
> The typical mouse receiver is a joke. The receiver is not very
> sensitive, but almost any strong RF signal will cause it to go into
> "blocking". Blocking is where the receiver input stage is saturated
> with enough RF to cause rectification, effectively turning it off. My
> guess is that the beacon transmissions from the access point are
> trashing the mouse receiver in this manner.
>
> The problem can also appear at the mouse transmitter end. Shove
> enough RF into the transmitter, and it too can rectify the RF, causing
> it to shut off. This is less common, but still possible.
>
> Lastly, the wall wart power supply for the WRT54GS might be a
> switching supply causing RFI and EMI that is being received by the
> mouse receiver. If the wall wart is a small comparatively light
> weight unit, it's a switcher. The WRT54G will run on any wall wart
> from 5VDC to perhaps 15VDC (negative ground) so you might try a
> different wall wart.
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann (E-Mail Removed)
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 AE6KS 831-336-2558



 
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