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M.L.
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      08-02-2009, 10:04 AM

I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
as an access point. In spite of the settings below my router's web
page does not show the ATA as one of its connected devices, nor does
its DHCP assign an IP to the LAN NIC connected to the ATA. After
forcing an IP on the NIC, I can login to the ATA's web page and make
changes. Am I missing a configuration issue that's keeping the
wireless ATA from appearing on my router's network?

OS: Vista32 SP2
Router IP = 192.168.0.1 = URL of router config web page
Router IP range = 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254
Router DHCP = ON
Router MAC ID filtering = OFF
IP of Wireless ATA = 192.168.0.120 = URL of ATA config web page
IP of LAN NIC connected to ATA = 192.168.0.10
Wireless indicator on the ATA is ON.
ATA SSID = same as wireless router's
ATA SSID Broadcast flag = Enable
ATA channel = same as wireless router's
ATA WEP = same as wireless router's
 
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Char Jackson
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      08-02-2009, 06:01 PM
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:04:46 -0500, M.L. <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>as an access point.


The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
to be configured as a client.

>In spite of the settings below my router's web
>page does not show the ATA as one of its connected devices, nor does
>its DHCP assign an IP to the LAN NIC connected to the ATA. After
>forcing an IP on the NIC, I can login to the ATA's web page and make
>changes. Am I missing a configuration issue that's keeping the
>wireless ATA from appearing on my router's network?
>
>OS: Vista32 SP2
>Router IP = 192.168.0.1 = URL of router config web page
>Router IP range = 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254
>Router DHCP = ON
>Router MAC ID filtering = OFF
>IP of Wireless ATA = 192.168.0.120 = URL of ATA config web page
>IP of LAN NIC connected to ATA = 192.168.0.10
>Wireless indicator on the ATA is ON.
>ATA SSID = same as wireless router's
>ATA SSID Broadcast flag = Enable
>ATA channel = same as wireless router's
>ATA WEP = same as wireless router's


Other random suggestions:
1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
for each.
2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.
3. Consider using one of the WPA flavors of wireless security. WEP is
the equivalent of protecting a hot apple pie with a wet paper towel.

 
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M.L.
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      08-02-2009, 06:35 PM

Thank you for your prompt response. I'll try to explain and answer as
much as I can.

>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>as an access point.

>
>Any particular maker and model wireless router?


Comcast Netgear Wireless Cable Modem Gateway CG814WG
http://moourl.com/dpztn

>Any particular maker and model ATA (VoIP) wireless adapter?


SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA
http://moourl.com/b17wg

>>In spite of the settings below, my router's web
>>page does not show the ATA as one of its connected devices, nor does
>>its DHCP assign an IP to the LAN NIC connected to the ATA. After
>>forcing an IP on the NIC, I can login to the ATA's web page and make
>>changes. Am I missing a configuration issue that's keeping the
>>wireless ATA from appearing on my router's network?
>>
>>OS: Vista32 SP2
>>Router IP = 192.168.0.1 = URL of router config web page
>>Router IP range = 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254
>>Router DHCP = ON
>>Router MAC ID filtering = OFF

>
>>IP of Wireless ATA = 192.168.0.120 = URL of ATA config web page
>>IP of LAN NIC connected to ATA = 192.168.0.10
>>Wireless indicator on the ATA is ON.
>>ATA SSID = same as wireless router's
>>ATA SSID Broadcast flag = Enable
>>ATA channel = same as wireless router's
>>ATA WEP = same as wireless router's

>
>1. Your unspecified model wireless ATA adapter probably has an
>ethernet jack. Turn OFF the wireless for now, and do your testing
>with a wired ethernet connection. Once that's working, setup the
>wireless link.


Sorry I didn't make it clear but I already connect to the SMCWTVG via
an Ethernet cable to view the SMCWTVG config web page at
192.168.0.120.

>2. WEP sucks. Use WPA or WPA2 if possible. For initial testing turn
>*OFF* encryption until you get it working. Then turn on WPA
>encryption. There are also conversion issues for WEP when converting
>from an ASCII to a HEX key. The Hex key usually works. That ASCII
>does not.


I'd rather not debate WEP. I don't want to turn off WEP for testing. I
use a HEX key.

>3. It's highly likely that your unspecified model wireless ATA
>adapater is setup as a router with NAT enabled. What you want instead
>is to set it up as a wireless client. There is sometimes some setting
>in the wireless ATA adapter to do this, but I can't offer any clues
>without the maker and model number.


The SMCWTVG works in one of 3 easily selectable modes: As a Router, a
Wireless Client, or an Access Point. I want to use it only as an
Access Point for VOIP.

>4. The reason your unspecified model wireless ATA adapter did not
>obtain a DHCP assigned IP address from the unspecified model router is
>that the unspecified wireless ATA adapter probably does not have a
>wireless client mode. It's probably acting as an access point or
>wireless router, which has a DHCP *SERVER* running, and is lacking a
>DHCP client. For such derrangements, disable the DHCP server in the
>unspecified model ATA adapter and assign a static IP address. The
>setup is similar to using a wireless router as an access point as
>described in:
><http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_How_To#Use_a_wireless_router_as_a_wireless_acce ss_point>


The wireless Access Point mode automatically turns off such router
features as firewall, NAT and DHCP, essentially leaving the SMCWTVG as
a passthrough device for VOIP. The Ethernet connection used for
testing is supposed to get its IP from the Netgear router, not the
SMCWTVG. However, since it's not getting an IP I'm forced to assign it
a static one during testing. I'm trying to find out why the Netgear
isn't handing over an IP address to my LAN connection, and why the
SMCWTVG isn't showing up on the Netgear's config web page as a
connected wireless device. Although the SMCWTVG has an IP
(192.168.0.120) within the Netgear's IP range, it's acting as though
it's not on Netgear's network. I hope this clarifies my OP.
 
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      08-03-2009, 12:43 AM


>>I tried to download the manual from the SMC web pile and failed. It
>>found the product, but no downloadable manual.

>
>I found the manual at:
><http://office.manualsonline.com/manuals/mfg/smc_networks/smc_barricade_g_wireless_travel_voice_gateway_smcw tvg_smcwtvg.html>
>Things are somewhat clearer now.


FYI, I'm the one who uploaded my SMCWTVG manual to that website :-)
I was looking for the manual before the hardware was delivered and
couldn't find it.

>Looks like I made a few mistakes. Sorry.
>
>You're correct that there are 3 modes:
>1. Client (bridge)
>2. AP (access point)
>3. Gateway (router)
>
>What I think you want is the Gateway mode. This is where it acts like
>a router, dispenses IP addresses to client computahs, and has a DHCP
>client running on the WAN port.


Another poster suggested I use the Wireless Client mode. No computers
will be attached to the SMCWTVG after testing, just an analog
telephone, so I don't think using it as a router will be necessary.

>Where I was wrong is where the wireless is attached. It varies
>depending on operating mode. From the client wireless config:
>
>Auto
> The unit automatically selects the operating mode depending on
> the WAN port status.
>- With no link on the WAN port, the unit starts up in Wireless
> Client mode.
>- With a link on the WAN port, the unit starts up in Gateway mode.
>Basically, if you plug anything into the WAN port, the mode switches.
>
>In manual mode, you have those two choices, plus the addition of an
>access point mode. Basically, these modes switch the wireless device
>between the LAN and WAN sides of the router, and switch the wireless
>operating mode between client and access point.
>
>I can't tell exactly how you have yours set, so I can't really
>determine how the wireless should operate. It also might not be what
>you want. I suggest you try using it in one of the 3 manual modes,
>and see if that helps with the DHCP client.
>
>My appologies (again) for the muddle.

 
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      08-03-2009, 12:51 AM


Char, I'd like to thank both you and Jeff for your prompt and helpful
responses.

>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>as an access point.

>
>The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
>point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
>you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
>to be configured as a client.


Looks like I was barking up the wrong tree. I'll try connecting as a
Wireless Client and let everyone know the results.

>>In spite of the settings below my router's web
>>page does not show the ATA as one of its connected devices, nor does
>>its DHCP assign an IP to the LAN NIC connected to the ATA. After
>>forcing an IP on the NIC, I can login to the ATA's web page and make
>>changes. Am I missing a configuration issue that's keeping the
>>wireless ATA from appearing on my router's network?
>>
>>OS: Vista32 SP2
>>Router IP = 192.168.0.1 = URL of router config web page
>>Router IP range = 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254
>>Router DHCP = ON
>>Router MAC ID filtering = OFF
>>IP of Wireless ATA = 192.168.0.120 = URL of ATA config web page
>>IP of LAN NIC connected to ATA = 192.168.0.10
>>Wireless indicator on the ATA is ON.
>>ATA SSID = same as wireless router's
>>ATA SSID Broadcast flag = Enable
>>ATA channel = same as wireless router's
>>ATA WEP = same as wireless router's

>
>Other random suggestions:
>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>for each.


I thought the channels had to be the same.

>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.


I thought the SSIDs had to be the same.

Thanks again. I'll follow those instructions and let you know what
happens.

>3. Consider using one of the WPA flavors of wireless security. WEP is
>the equivalent of protecting a hot apple pie with a wet paper towel.

 
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      08-03-2009, 04:22 AM


>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>as an access point.

>
>The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
>point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
>you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
>to be configured as a client.


Ok, I set the SMCWTVG mode as a Wireless Client. Here is what the
manual states about that mode:

<quote>
The configuration of wireless settings is available in Gateway Mode
and Access Point Mode only.
....
To access a wireless network in Wireless Client mode, connect your PC
to the LAN port and then set your PC’s network connection to DHCP. In
Wireless Client mode, the Personal Mobile Gateway acts as a DHCP
server to assign IP address settings to one client connected on the
LAN port. Use the default IP address, 192.168.2.1, to access the web
management interface. Using the Setup Wizard or from the Mode Config
page, you can then set up a connection to a nearby access point.
</quote>

So I changed the SMCWTVG's gateway IP to 192.168.2.1, and it connects
to my LAN connection using DHCP. However, it knocks out my wireless
laptop connection to the Netgear. I get my wireless Internet
connection back only if I disable the LAN connection. Does that make
sense?

>Other random suggestions:
>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>for each.
>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.


I can't do any of those things in Wireless Client mode since the
wireless settings are not available in that mode. I also notice that
the wireless indicator light is unlit in Wireless Client mode.
 
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      08-03-2009, 05:28 AM


M.L. wrote:
>
>>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>>as an access point.

>>
>>The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
>>point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
>>you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
>>to be configured as a client.

>
>
> Ok, I set the SMCWTVG mode as a Wireless Client. Here is what the
> manual states about that mode:
>
> <quote>
> The configuration of wireless settings is available in Gateway Mode
> and Access Point Mode only.
> ...
> To access a wireless network in Wireless Client mode, connect your PC
> to the LAN port and then set your PC’s network connection to DHCP. In
> Wireless Client mode, the Personal Mobile Gateway acts as a DHCP
> server to assign IP address settings to one client connected on the
> LAN port. Use the default IP address, 192.168.2.1, to access the web
> management interface. Using the Setup Wizard or from the Mode Config
> page, you can then set up a connection to a nearby access point.
> </quote>
>
> So I changed the SMCWTVG's gateway IP to 192.168.2.1, and it connects
> to my LAN connection using DHCP. However, it knocks out my wireless
> laptop connection to the Netgear. I get my wireless Internet
> connection back only if I disable the LAN connection. Does that make
> sense?
>
>
>>Other random suggestions:
>>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>>for each.
>>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.

>
>
> I can't do any of those things in Wireless Client mode since the
> wireless settings are not available in that mode. I also notice that
> the wireless indicator light is unlit in Wireless Client mode.



Hi,

Sorry to jump in on this thread.

From one of your posts, your "wireless router" is a "Comcast Netgear
Wireless Cable Modem Gateway CG814WG".

I'm assuming that means that the CG814WG came from Comcast, and has a
built-in cablemodem. So, the CG814WG needs to plug into the Comcast
COAX on the "WAN side".

And, set that CG814WG up as a wireless router, with the DHCP server
enabled, and set a SID, encryption type/key, etc.

Now, your ATA is a "SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA".

*Physically* connect the ethernet (RJ45) port of the SMCWTG to one of
the 4 RJ45 ports on the CG814WG using a ethernet cable, then, set the
SMCWTVG up as an Access Point.

For the SMCWTG's "wireless" or "LAN" side:

- You'll need to set the SSID, encryption type/key, etc., and

For the "WAN" side of the SMCWTG, you'll need to either:

- Set the SMCWTG WAN side to a fixed IP above the range of IPs that the
CG814WG DHCP server will server, or
- Set the "WAN" side of the SMCWTG to just get an IP address from the
CG814WG.


Then (and I'm assuming that you have an ATA because you have a phone and
are using VOIP), then, plug an analog phone into the analog phone port
on the SMCWTG.


So, what you end up with is:


Phone ======> SMCWTG ======> CG815WG =======> Comcast coax


That's probably the way that I'd do it, anyway.

Here's a nice picture of the SMCWTG setup:

http://nguyenthanhtelecom.vn/images/.../SMCWTVG-1.jpg

In the above picture, the blue cloud labelled "Internet" is essentially
your CG815WG, in your case.

Now, I don't know if there is a way to connect the SMCWTG to the CG814WG
wirelessly (i.e., with a non-cabled, wireless connection from the SMCWTG
to the CG814WG). There may be, but I haven't worked with either of
these products, so I don't know (I've worked with some other SMC
equipment, and their terminology seems to be somewhat non-standard).

I think that to do this, the SMCWTG would have to be able to function
simultaneously as an Access Point and as a Wireless client. As I said,
I don't know if it can do that, but maybe that's what that's what SMC
calls "Gateway"?

Anyway, I hope that this helps.

Later,
Jim



 
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      08-03-2009, 05:57 AM
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:22:38 -0500, M.L. <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>
>>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>>as an access point.

>>
>>The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
>>point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
>>you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
>>to be configured as a client.

>
>Ok, I set the SMCWTVG mode as a Wireless Client. Here is what the
>manual states about that mode:
>
><quote>
>The configuration of wireless settings is available in Gateway Mode
>and Access Point Mode only.
>...
>To access a wireless network in Wireless Client mode, connect your PC
>to the LAN port and then set your PC’s network connection to DHCP. In
>Wireless Client mode, the Personal Mobile Gateway acts as a DHCP
>server to assign IP address settings to one client connected on the
>LAN port. Use the default IP address, 192.168.2.1, to access the web
>management interface. Using the Setup Wizard or from the Mode Config
>page, you can then set up a connection to a nearby access point.
></quote>
>
>So I changed the SMCWTVG's gateway IP to 192.168.2.1, and it connects
>to my LAN connection using DHCP.


So far, so good.

>However, it knocks out my wireless
>laptop connection to the Netgear. I get my wireless Internet
>connection back only if I disable the LAN connection. Does that make
>sense?


Not a bit, but probably because I don't know, or don't remember, how
you have things connected. Obviously, it shouldn't do that, and it
won't, once you get everything configured properly.

It sounds like you're saying the modem/router can handle only one
wireless connection at a time. You might make sure the DHCP scope
isn't set for a single client, or just set a client IP manually until
you get the other stuff figured out.

>>Other random suggestions:
>>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>>for each.
>>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.

>
>I can't do any of those things in Wireless Client mode since the
>wireless settings are not available in that mode. I also notice that
>the wireless indicator light is unlit in Wireless Client mode.


That's ok, in Client mode you don't need to do any of those things.
They are all done on the Access Point side of the wireless connection.
The Client just follows what the Access Point does.

 
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      08-03-2009, 07:11 AM


>>>>I'm trying to get my wireless router to connect with my wireless ATA
>>>>as an access point.
>>>
>>>The wireless router is already functionally equivalent to an access
>>>point. Two access points can't connect to each other wirelessly. If
>>>you're trying to make this a wireless connection, one side will need
>>>to be configured as a client.

>>
>>
>> Ok, I set the SMCWTVG mode as a Wireless Client. Here is what the
>> manual states about that mode:
>>
>> <quote>
>> The configuration of wireless settings is available in Gateway Mode
>> and Access Point Mode only.
>> ...
>> To access a wireless network in Wireless Client mode, connect your PC
>> to the LAN port and then set your PC’s network connection to DHCP. In
>> Wireless Client mode, the Personal Mobile Gateway acts as a DHCP
>> server to assign IP address settings to one client connected on the
>> LAN port. Use the default IP address, 192.168.2.1, to access the web
>> management interface. Using the Setup Wizard or from the Mode Config
>> page, you can then set up a connection to a nearby access point.
>> </quote>
>>
>> So I changed the SMCWTVG's gateway IP to 192.168.2.1, and it connects
>> to my LAN connection using DHCP. However, it knocks out my wireless
>> laptop connection to the Netgear. I get my wireless Internet
>> connection back only if I disable the LAN connection. Does that make
>> sense?
>>
>>
>>>Other random suggestions:
>>>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>>>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>>>for each.
>>>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.

>>
>>
>> I can't do any of those things in Wireless Client mode since the
>> wireless settings are not available in that mode. I also notice that
>> the wireless indicator light is unlit in Wireless Client mode.

>
>
>Hi,
>
>Sorry to jump in on this thread.


No problem. I welcome new ideas. :-)

> From one of your posts, your "wireless router" is a "Comcast Netgear
>Wireless Cable Modem Gateway CG814WG".
>
>I'm assuming that means that the CG814WG came from Comcast, and has a
>built-in cablemodem. So, the CG814WG needs to plug into the Comcast
>COAX on the "WAN side".
>And, set that CG814WG up as a wireless router, with the DHCP server
>enabled, and set a SID, encryption type/key, etc.


Yes to all.

>Now, your ATA is a "SMC Networks SMCWTVG Wireless Router/ATA".
>
>*Physically* connect the ethernet (RJ45) port of the SMCWTG to one of
>the 4 RJ45 ports on the CG814WG using a ethernet cable, then, set the
>SMCWTVG up as an Access Point.


The Comcast Netgear router is located in a room upstairs while the
SMCWTVG is in a downstairs room, so there can be no direct connection
between the two. I bought the SMCWTVG in order to connect them
wirelessly.

>For the SMCWTG's "wireless" or "LAN" side:
>
>- You'll need to set the SSID, encryption type/key, etc., and
>
>For the "WAN" side of the SMCWTG, you'll need to either:
>
>- Set the SMCWTG WAN side to a fixed IP above the range of IPs that the
>CG814WG DHCP server will server, or
>- Set the "WAN" side of the SMCWTG to just get an IP address from the
>CG814WG.


The Wireless Client mode allows surprisingly few configuration
changes. Basically, I can switch to 1 of 3 modes, do a Site Survey to
find other networks, change passwords, do firmware upgrades, and set
VOIP SIP credentials and dialing plans. All the WAN and LAN
configurations are done in the Gateway mode, while wireless configs
are allowed in both Gateway and Access Point mode.

>Then (and I'm assuming that you have an ATA because you have a phone and
>are using VOIP), then, plug an analog phone into the analog phone port
>on the SMCWTG.


Yes

>So, what you end up with is:
>
>
>Phone ======> SMCWTG ======> CG815WG =======> Comcast coax


Yes, except the Netgear will have to be connected wirelessly.

>That's probably the way that I'd do it, anyway.
>
>Here's a nice picture of the SMCWTG setup:
>
>http://nguyenthanhtelecom.vn/images/.../SMCWTVG-1.jpg
>
>In the above picture, the blue cloud labelled "Internet" is essentially
>your CG815WG, in your case.
>
>Now, I don't know if there is a way to connect the SMCWTG to the CG814WG
>wirelessly (i.e., with a non-cabled, wireless connection from the SMCWTG
>to the CG814WG). There may be, but I haven't worked with either of
>these products, so I don't know (I've worked with some other SMC
>equipment, and their terminology seems to be somewhat non-standard).
>
>I think that to do this, the SMCWTG would have to be able to function
>simultaneously as an Access Point and as a Wireless client. As I said,
>I don't know if it can do that, but maybe that's what that's what SMC
>calls "Gateway"?
>
>Anyway, I hope that this helps.


Thank you. I'll try to employ as much of everyone's advice as
possible.
 
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      08-03-2009, 07:47 AM


>>Ok, I set the SMCWTVG mode as a Wireless Client. Here is what the
>>manual states about that mode:
>>
>><quote>
>>The configuration of wireless settings is available in Gateway Mode
>>and Access Point Mode only.
>>...
>>To access a wireless network in Wireless Client mode, connect your PC
>>to the LAN port and then set your PC’s network connection to DHCP.

>
>No big deal. Take whatever IP address it offers for now.
>
>>In
>>Wireless Client mode, the Personal Mobile Gateway acts as a DHCP
>>server to assign IP address settings to one client connected on the
>>LAN port.

>
>OK, that makes sense. Without NAT, you can only bridge one IP address
>in the SMC, which is acting like a transparent wireless ethernet
>client bridge (whew!).
>
>>Use the default IP address, 192.168.2.1, to access the web
>>management interface. Using the Setup Wizard or from the Mode Config
>>page, you can then set up a connection to a nearby access point.
>></quote>

>
>Ok. It really doesn't matter what IP address you use for management.
>However, you really want the Netgear to assign the IP address or you
>don't get to talk to the Netgear. With the SMC operating in the
>client mode, you apparently now have two DHCP servers operating. One
>in the Netgear and one in the SMC. That can be fixed. Read on.
>
>>So I changed the SMCWTVG's gateway IP to 192.168.2.1, and it connects
>>to my LAN connection using DHCP. However, it knocks out my wireless
>>laptop connection to the Netgear.

>
>Well yes. Your Netgear is at 192.168.0.1. It's not going to see
>anything on the 192.168.2.xxx network. So, please make the following
>changes:
>
>1. Plug your computah into one of the LAN ports of the SMC travel
>router. Disable the wireless on your computer if so equiped to keep
>from accidentally connecting to the Netgear.


First part has been done. The other is easy enough.

>2. Change the DHCP assigned IP address range of the Netgear from the
>default 192.168.0.2 -> 192.168.0.254 to something more sane like:
> 192.168.0.100 -> 192.168.0.199


Unfortunately the Comcast Netgear web config doesn't allow the user to
change either the default gateway IP or the IP range. I'll have to
work with that given.
>
>3. Set the IP address of the SMC to 192.168.0.2. This should be
>static and not DHCP assigned.


I'll have to temporarily switch to the Gateway mode for that. The SMC
makes that easy to do. However, I'm going to make the IP
192.168.0.100. If that IP has to be outside of the Netgear range, I'm
out of luck.

>4. Turn OFF the DHCP server in the SMC. This may cause some initial
>headaches until you establish a wireless connection with the Netgear.


I can turn off DHCP only in Gateway mode on the SMC, and I can't
guarantee that the result will still apply to the Wireless Client
mode.

>5. Reboot everything and pray.


I'll let everyone know what happens from here.

> If everything works as expected, you
>should get an IP address from the Netgear on your computer. If you
>get something like 169.254.xxx.xxx, it didn't work. If that happens,
>try:
> ipconfig /release
> wait about 5 seconds
> ipconfig /renew
>If that still doesn't work, set your computer for a static IP address
>for 192.168.0.99 (or whatever). Any gateway and blank DNS servers.
>Now, you should be able to connect to the SMC at 192.168.0.2 and fix
>the configuration. Yes, I know turning off the DHCP server in the SMC
>is a pain at the laptop level, but you only have to do it once. Reboot
>again or do the above ipconfig trick. You should eventually get a
>DHCP assigned IP address of 192.168.0.100 with a gateway IP of
>192.168.0.1. The DNS server could be 192.168.0.1 or the real DNS
>servers depending on how the Netgear is configured.
>
>6. Try browsing the internet, it should work.
>
>>I get my wireless Internet
>>connection back only if I disable the LAN connection. Does that make
>>sense?

>
>What LAN connection? You should *NOT* have both a CAT5 cable and a
>wireless connection running simultaneously between the Netgear and the
>SMC. In the client mode, you are using the travel router as a
>wireless client. The only things that gets connected to the LAN ports
>on the SMC is the management computah.
>
>>>Other random suggestions:
>>>1. If you're eventually going to have two wireless access points
>>>operating, choose different non-overlapping channels (such as 1,6,11)
>>>for each.
>>>2. Consider using different SSID's for each access point.

>>
>>I can't do any of those things in Wireless Client mode since the
>>wireless settings are not available in that mode. I also notice that
>>the wireless indicator light is unlit in Wireless Client mode.

>
>The SMC description you quote is self-contradictory. The first line
>says that the wireless settings are not available in client mode. Then
>3rd sentence explains how to connect to the web management pages.
>
>What I guess(tm) they meant is that you cannot change the wireless
>channel in client mode. That's normal because the system access point
>controls what channel is used. The client scans all channels looking
>for a matching SSID. I think when you get everything on the same
>Class C IP address block, and disarm the extra DHCP server, things
>will start to work correctly.
>
>What a PITA.

 
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