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zarity@gmail.com
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      10-30-2006, 08:33 AM
Hello,

I'm having some trouble setting up a DLink DI-624 wireless router to
act as simple AP in my wired network. Has anyone managed to get
something like this going? Here's my current setup and the results I'm
seeing:

I have a Smoothwall box connecting two subnets to the internet. The
first (192.168.1.0/24) is my (fully wired) LAN. The second subnet
(192.168.2.0/24) consists of the DLink router connecting two laptops,
one wired (A) and one wireless (B). DHCP is handled by the Smoothwall
box, and is turned off on the
DLink router. The router is connected via LAN port to the smoothie (no
WAN connection).

When I connect A to the DLink router, everything works fine. It gets an
IP from the smoothie and can access the internet. With B, the wireless
connection works, it gets an IP from the smoothie, but can't ping
anything other than A (A can also ping B).

Now, if I ping the DLink router or B itself from either the smoothie or
any machine on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet, B suddenly gains acces to the
internet. And this continues to work (I suppose until the lease expires
on its IP). I get the same behavior if I completely eliminate A from
the setup.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Leisha

 
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      10-30-2006, 02:22 PM
On 30 Oct 2006 01:33:02 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
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>I'm having some trouble setting up a DLink DI-624 wireless router to
>act as simple AP in my wired network. Has anyone managed to get
>something like this going? Here's my current setup and the results I'm
>seeing:
>
>I have a Smoothwall box connecting two subnets to the internet. The
>first (192.168.1.0/24) is my (fully wired) LAN. The second subnet
>(192.168.2.0/24) consists of the DLink router connecting two laptops,
>one wired (A) and one wireless (B). DHCP is handled by the Smoothwall
>box, and is turned off on the
>DLink router. The router is connected via LAN port to the smoothie (no
>WAN connection).
>
>When I connect A to the DLink router, everything works fine. It gets an
>IP from the smoothie and can access the internet. With B, the wireless
>connection works, it gets an IP from the smoothie, but can't ping
>anything other than A (A can also ping B).
>
>Now, if I ping the DLink router or B itself from either the smoothie or
>any machine on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet, B suddenly gains acces to the
>internet. And this continues to work (I suppose until the lease expires
>on its IP). I get the same behavior if I completely eliminate A from
>the setup.
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions?


Possible filtering. Suggest hard reset of both Smoothie and DahLink to
factory defaults, and then reconfiguring.

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      10-30-2006, 08:56 PM
John Navas wrote:
> On 30 Oct 2006 01:33:02 -0800, (E-Mail Removed) wrote in
> <(E-Mail Removed) .com>:
>
> >I'm having some trouble setting up a DLink DI-624 wireless router to
> >act as simple AP in my wired network. Has anyone managed to get
> >something like this going? Here's my current setup and the results I'm
> >seeing:
> >
> >I have a Smoothwall box connecting two subnets to the internet. The
> >first (192.168.1.0/24) is my (fully wired) LAN. The second subnet
> >(192.168.2.0/24) consists of the DLink router connecting two laptops,
> >one wired (A) and one wireless (B). DHCP is handled by the Smoothwall
> >box, and is turned off on the
> >DLink router. The router is connected via LAN port to the smoothie (no
> >WAN connection).
> >
> >When I connect A to the DLink router, everything works fine. It gets an
> >IP from the smoothie and can access the internet. With B, the wireless
> >connection works, it gets an IP from the smoothie, but can't ping
> >anything other than A (A can also ping B).
> >
> >Now, if I ping the DLink router or B itself from either the smoothie or
> >any machine on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet, B suddenly gains acces to the
> >internet. And this continues to work (I suppose until the lease expires
> >on its IP). I get the same behavior if I completely eliminate A from
> >the setup.
> >
> >Does anyone have any suggestions?

>
> Possible filtering. Suggest hard reset of both Smoothie and DahLink to
> factory defaults, and then reconfiguring.


Hi,

Thanks for the response.

The DLink is at factory defaults (except that DHCP is turned off). In
particular there are no filtering rules. The smoothie has no rules
blocking outbound traffic from the relevant subnet. Wired machines on
this subnet have no problem accessing the internet. Further, the logs
on the smoothie show that no traffic from the wireless machine
(192.168.2.254) is reaching it.

Effectively, no traffic from the DLink's wireless segment is making it
out of the DLink and onto the smoothie, until something from outside of
the 192.168.2.0/24 subnet pings something inside that subnet. It's this
last bit that really has me stumped.

Thanks again,
Leisha

 
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      10-30-2006, 11:34 PM
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>>> I have a Smoothwall box connecting two subnets to the internet. The
>>> first (192.168.1.0/24) is my (fully wired) LAN. The second subnet
>>> (192.168.2.0/24) consists of the DLink router connecting two
>>> laptops, one wired (A) and one wireless (B). DHCP is handled by the
>>> Smoothwall box, and is turned off on the
>>> DLink router. The router is connected via LAN port to the smoothie
>>> (no WAN connection).

>
> Effectively, no traffic from the DLink's wireless segment is making it
> out of the DLink and onto the smoothie, until something from outside
> of the 192.168.2.0/24 subnet pings something inside that subnet. It's
> this last bit that really has me stumped.
>
> Thanks again,
> Leisha


Have you tried them on the same subnet rather than two different ones?
In your post I see x.x.1.x and x.x.2.x

Not sure what happen when you have one dhcp server giving out addresses on
two subnets (never tried it so just dont know what it will do)

Just out of curiosity, why are they on seperate ones? (check your firewalls
and masks too)

Just for fun, can you put it all on one subnet to try it? Should hopefully
work if you make it in the same address range as the existing wired... how
bout staring at .00 to .124?




 
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      10-31-2006, 01:15 AM

Peter Pan wrote:
> (E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>
> >>> I have a Smoothwall box connecting two subnets to the internet. The
> >>> first (192.168.1.0/24) is my (fully wired) LAN. The second subnet
> >>> (192.168.2.0/24) consists of the DLink router connecting two
> >>> laptops, one wired (A) and one wireless (B). DHCP is handled by the
> >>> Smoothwall box, and is turned off on the
> >>> DLink router. The router is connected via LAN port to the smoothie
> >>> (no WAN connection).

> >
> > Effectively, no traffic from the DLink's wireless segment is making it
> > out of the DLink and onto the smoothie, until something from outside
> > of the 192.168.2.0/24 subnet pings something inside that subnet. It's
> > this last bit that really has me stumped.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Leisha

>
> Have you tried them on the same subnet rather than two different ones?
> In your post I see x.x.1.x and x.x.2.x
>
> Not sure what happen when you have one dhcp server giving out addresses on
> two subnets (never tried it so just dont know what it will do)


The two subnets are completely separate and independent. DHCP is served
to 192.168.2.0/24 only, the fully wired LAN is all static.


>
> Just out of curiosity, why are they on seperate ones? (check your firewalls
> and masks too)


1. They're logically two seperate networks.
2. Security.

192.168.1.0/24 is a private network and should not be accessible to
anything on 192.168.2.0/24, which only needs internet access.


>
> Just for fun, can you put it all on one subnet to try it? Should hopefully
> work if you make it in the same address range as the existing wired... how
> bout staring at .00 to .124?


I'll probablly give that a go just to see. But I'm quite convinced that
the problem is within the DLink router.

 
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      10-31-2006, 02:44 AM
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> I'll probablly give that a go just to see. But I'm quite convinced
> that the problem is within the DLink router.


From your description, and what you already tried, that would be my current
guess too... I had a linksys that was doing what you described your dlink as
doing.. Figgered what the heck, got another and flashed the old one with
dd-wrt v23 sp2 (http://www.dd-wrt.com) figuring what the heck... heck
happened... now it's a brick and holds the inside door open when the ac is
on (was too light tho, had to duck tape a real brick to it)


 
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