Wireless Router advice

I need a new wireless router but not sure which make to buy. Any
suggestions to the most reliable make (which is also straightforward to
install) gratefully received
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:45:16 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>I need a new wireless router but not sure which make to buy. Any
>suggestions to the most reliable make (which is also straightforward to
>install) gratefully received

Netgear DG834G(T).
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Regards,
Stuart.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:26:48 +0100, Lurch wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:45:16 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>
>>I need a new wireless router but not sure which make to buy. Any
>>suggestions to the most reliable make (which is also straightforward to
>>install) gratefully received
>
> Netgear DG834G(T).

Would that have a good strong signal do you know ? The 3com I have now is
not powerful enough to reach from one side of my house where my office is
to the other via various walls and doors (60 feet)when using my wireless
laptop.
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:44:35 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:26:48 +0100, Lurch wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:45:16 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>>
>>>I need a new wireless router but not sure which make to buy. Any
>>>suggestions to the most reliable make (which is also straightforward to
>>>install) gratefully received
>>
>> Netgear DG834G(T).
>
>Would that have a good strong signal do you know ? The 3com I have now is
>not powerful enough to reach from one side of my house where my office is
>to the other via various walls and doors (60 feet)when using my wireless
>laptop.

All depends on what the walls and doors are made from. IT's a how long
is a piece of string kind of question anyway as loads of things affect
wireless performance.

For that distance though, I would try and put the router in the
middle, or wire an access point to act as a repeater at the far end.
The Bufallo router\access point seems to have outperformed the Netgear
DG834G on sites I've used it on, but it does depend on your house
construction as mentioned.
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Regards,
Stuart.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:14:46 +0100, Lurch wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:44:35 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>
>> [14 quoted lines suppressed]
>
> All depends on what the walls and doors are made from. IT's a how long
> is a piece of string kind of question anyway as loads of things affect
> wireless performance.
>
> For that distance though, I would try and put the router in the
> middle, or wire an access point to act as a repeater at the far end.
> The Bufallo router\access point seems to have outperformed the Netgear
> DG834G on sites I've used it on, but it does depend on your house
> construction as mentioned.

House is constructed brick mainly with no partition walls downstairs. We do
have other telephone extension points throughout the house but the present
router doesn't seem to want to work on them???? only from the master
telephone point in the office
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:21:57 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:

>On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:14:46 +0100, Lurch wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:44:35 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>>
>>> [14 quoted lines suppressed]
>>
>> All depends on what the walls and doors are made from. IT's a how long
>> is a piece of string kind of question anyway as loads of things affect
>> wireless performance.
>>
>> For that distance though, I would try and put the router in the
>> middle, or wire an access point to act as a repeater at the far end.
>> The Bufallo router\access point seems to have outperformed the Netgear
>> DG834G on sites I've used it on, but it does depend on your house
>> construction as mentioned.
>
>House is constructed brick mainly with no partition walls downstairs. We do
>have other telephone extension points throughout the house but the present
>router doesn't seem to want to work on them???? only from the master
>telephone point in the office

Would you happen to have a master faceplate type filter? If not, then
your extension wiring is shagged. Either way, the only real solution
is for you to invest money in either a) buying more equipment and
having it hardwired back to the router to extend the range or b)
paying someone to sort the possibly faulty wiring of the extensions in
your home. A decent all round type chap should be able to do any\all
of these jobs and advice on which would be the best situation.

However, you may say you have a master faceplate filter, in which case
you would need to remove this and\or use a second pair of the
extension wiring (if one exists) to run an unfiltered point to your
new router location and\or fit microfilters to each telephony device
in use.
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Regards,
Stuart.

"Delta" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:26:48 +0100, Lurch wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:45:16 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>>
>>>I need a new wireless router but not sure which make to buy. Any
>>>suggestions to the most reliable make (which is also straightforward to
>>>install) gratefully received
>>
>> Netgear DG834G(T).
>
> Would that have a good strong signal do you know ? The 3com I have now is
> not powerful enough to reach from one side of my house where my office is
> to the other via various walls and doors (60 feet)when using my wireless
> laptop.

Most routers offer much the same output power. This is limited by
legislation. The actual limit is the radiated power, so for the transmitter
a high gain antenna will be no help.

However the receiver will benefit from a high gain antenna - effectively
this means that a given signal at the antenna will arrive at the receiver
input increased by the gain factor of the antenna. Antennae generally
achieve their gain by being directional; this gives the advantage that they
can minimise on-channel interference from other transmitters not in the same
general directin.

It also helps if the receiver is more sensitive. So the wireless devices
that give better performance probably have a more sensitive receiver.

Therefore both the wireless router and the adapter in the laptop will affect
performance.

As others have suggested, a wireless repeater placed at an intermediate
location might improve performance and allow you more flexibility in
placement of the laptop.

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Graham J

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:51:36 +0100, Lurch wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:21:57 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)> mused:
>
>> [20 quoted lines suppressed]
>
> Would you happen to have a master faceplate type filter?

Yes, fitted by BT engineer yesterday!

> If not, then
> your extension wiring is shagged. Either way, the only real solution
> is for you to invest money in either a) buying more equipment and
> having it hardwired back to the router to extend the range or b)
> paying someone to sort the possibly faulty wiring of the extensions in
> your home. A decent all round type chap should be able to do any\all
> of these jobs and advice on which would be the best situation.

Hmmmmm ......... thinking ....... now that could be a possible solution ?
>
> However, you may say you have a master faceplate filter, in which case
> you would need to remove this and\or use a second pair of the
> extension wiring (if one exists) to run an unfiltered point to your
> new router location and\or fit microfilters to each telephony device
> in use.

I see. Many thanks for your suggestions/advice. Much appreciated


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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 23:08:39 +0100, Graham wrote:

> Most routers offer much the same output power. This is limited by
> legislation. The actual limit is the radiated power, so for the transmitter
> a high gain antenna will be no help.
>
> However the receiver will benefit from a high gain antenna - effectively
> this means that a given signal at the antenna will arrive at the receiver
> input increased by the gain factor of the antenna. Antennae generally
> achieve their gain by being directional; this gives the advantage that they
> can minimise on-channel interference from other transmitters not in the same
> general directin.
>
> It also helps if the receiver is more sensitive. So the wireless devices
> that give better performance probably have a more sensitive receiver.

snipped but read

Thanks Graham
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Delta wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:51:36 +0100, Lurch wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:21:57 +0100, Delta <(E-Mail Removed)>
>> mused:
>>
>>> [20 quoted lines suppressed]
>>
>> Would you happen to have a master faceplate type filter?
>
> Yes, fitted by BT engineer yesterday!
>
>> If not, then
>> your extension wiring is shagged. Either way, the only real
>> solution is for you to invest money in either a) buying more
>> equipment and having it hardwired back to the router to extend the
>> range or b) paying someone to sort the possibly faulty wiring of
>> the extensions in your home. A decent all round type chap should
>> be able to do any\all of these jobs and advice on which would be
>> the best situation.
>
> Hmmmmm ......... thinking ....... now that could be a possible
> solution ?
>>
>> However, you may say you have a master faceplate filter, in which
>> case you would need to remove this and\or use a second pair of the
>> extension wiring (if one exists) to run an unfiltered point to your
>> new router location and\or fit microfilters to each telephony
>> device in use.
>
> I see. Many thanks for your suggestions/advice. Much appreciated
>

You could always use your ring main to network you laptop to your
router. Faster & more secure & dependable than wifi