wireless question?

Hello Chaps

i have a few questions on the below if any one can answer id appreciate it.


Scenario:
1 X ADSL line
1 X USB ADSL modem (with RJ45 connection on the back)
1 X Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway router i.e.(Belkin F5D7230uk4 )
1 X laptop with wireless built in
1 X Pc with wireless card

1 .Is it possible that the USB modem can be plugged into the DSL Gateway via
Ethernet only and the internet connection shared to the laptop and PC?

2. How will the modem dial out?

3. Where does the modem get its power from ?

4. Am I correct in saying that these gateway routers are designed for Cable
modems and DSL not ADSL?

5. Does anyone have this setup?


Hope I have explained it well
Any answers would be great..

Thanks



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'In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King'

"Luvly Jubly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Scenario:
> 1 X ADSL line
> 1 X USB ADSL modem (with RJ45 connection on the back)
> 1 X Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway router i.e.(Belkin F5D7230uk4 )
> 1 X laptop with wireless built in
> 1 X Pc with wireless card
>
> 1 .Is it possible that the USB modem can be plugged into the DSL Gateway
via
> Ethernet only and the internet connection shared to the laptop and PC?

No...

> 2. How will the modem dial out?

It won't

> 4. Am I correct in saying that these gateway routers are designed for
Cable
> modems and DSL not ADSL?

Yes the Belkin 7230 is designed more for cable modems but see below..

> 5. Does anyone have this setup?

You have brought/are looking at the wrong Belkin unit.

You need the Belkin F5D7630 (around £70 from Ebuyer.com) instead - it
contains a built in ADSL modem and can do exactly what you require.

The USB modem would no longer be required, as the 7630 includes that and it
can be attached directly to the BT socket etc and can then provide internet
access to the laptop/pc, either wirelessly or via a wired connection

Regards
Sunil

Thanks Sunil my suspicions were correct that the gateway devices are only
good for pppoe. I have been trying to drum this into one of the companies i
deal with who are adamant it will work. It's all about cost to them.

as well as the belkin can you recommend a similar dlink router with modem?





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'In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King'
"Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "Luvly Jubly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:40843012$0$26191$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Scenario:
> > 1 X ADSL line
> > 1 X USB ADSL modem (with RJ45 connection on the back)
> > 1 X Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway router i.e.(Belkin F5D7230uk4 )
> > 1 X laptop with wireless built in
> > 1 X Pc with wireless card
> >
> > 1 .Is it possible that the USB modem can be plugged into the DSL Gateway
> via
> > Ethernet only and the internet connection shared to the laptop and PC?
>
> No...
>
> > 2. How will the modem dial out?
>
> It won't
>
> > 4. Am I correct in saying that these gateway routers are designed for
> Cable
> > modems and DSL not ADSL?
>
> Yes the Belkin 7230 is designed more for cable modems but see below..
>
> > 5. Does anyone have this setup?
>
> You have brought/are looking at the wrong Belkin unit.
>
> You need the Belkin F5D7630 (around £70 from Ebuyer.com) instead - it
> contains a built in ADSL modem and can do exactly what you require.
>
> The USB modem would no longer be required, as the 7630 includes that and
it
> can be attached directly to the BT socket etc and can then provide
internet
> access to the laptop/pc, either wirelessly or via a wired connection
>
> Regards
> Sunil
>
>

In article <40843ecc$0$26195$(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> Thanks Sunil my suspicions were correct that the gateway devices are only
> good for pppoe. I have been trying to drum this into one of the companies i
> deal with who are adamant it will work. It's all about cost to them.
>
> as well as the belkin can you recommend a similar dlink router with modem?
>
Dlink DSL 604+

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If you're not on somebody's shit list, you're not doing anything
worthwhile.

"Luvly Jubly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks Sunil my suspicions were correct that the gateway devices are only
> good for pppoe. I have been trying to drum this into one of the companies
i
> deal with who are adamant it will work. It's all about cost to them.
>
> as well as the belkin can you recommend a similar dlink router with modem?

http://www.dlink.co.uk/pages/product...s_wireless.asp

DLink only seem to have DSL-604+ - though unlike the Belkin, it only
supports the older 802.11b standard

Regards
Sunil

The D-Link DSL-604 is the main thing you are looking for, AFAIK, an 11g
compatible version has just been released.
I have a 604+, which supports 22mbps.
I seriously suggest you don't buy a D-Link tho. I also suggest you use
cables where possible.
Netgear (DG834G) seem reliable, and Linksys do the WAG54G. All are
available from www.ebuyer.co.uk at less than £100 delivered
G


"Luvly Jubly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:40843ecc$0$26195$(E-Mail Removed)...
> Thanks Sunil my suspicions were correct that the gateway devices are
only
> good for pppoe. I have been trying to drum this into one of the
companies i
> deal with who are adamant it will work. It's all about cost to them.
>
> as well as the belkin can you recommend a similar dlink router with
modem?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> 'In the land of the blind the one eyed man is King'
> "Sunil Sood" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:c61d8c$6uf6r$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >
> > "Luvly Jubly" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:40843012$0$26191$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > > Scenario:
> > > 1 X ADSL line
> > > 1 X USB ADSL modem (with RJ45 connection on the back)
> > > 1 X Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway router i.e.(Belkin F5D7230uk4 )
> > > 1 X laptop with wireless built in
> > > 1 X Pc with wireless card
> > >
> > > 1 .Is it possible that the USB modem can be plugged into the DSL
Gateway
> > via
> > > Ethernet only and the internet connection shared to the laptop and
PC?
> >
> > No...
> >
> > > 2. How will the modem dial out?
> >
> > It won't
> >
> > > 4. Am I correct in saying that these gateway routers are designed
for
> > Cable
> > > modems and DSL not ADSL?
> >
> > Yes the Belkin 7230 is designed more for cable modems but see
below..
> >
> > > 5. Does anyone have this setup?
> >
> > You have brought/are looking at the wrong Belkin unit.
> >
> > You need the Belkin F5D7630 (around £70 from Ebuyer.com) instead -
it
> > contains a built in ADSL modem and can do exactly what you require.
> >
> > The USB modem would no longer be required, as the 7630 includes that
and
> it
> > can be attached directly to the BT socket etc and can then provide
> internet
> > access to the laptop/pc, either wirelessly or via a wired connection
> >
> > Regards
> > Sunil
> >
> >
>
>

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:01:34 +0100, "Luvly Jubly"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hello Chaps
>
>i have a few questions on the below if any one can answer id appreciate it.
>
>
>Scenario:
>1 X ADSL line
>1 X USB ADSL modem (with RJ45 connection on the back)
>1 X Wireless DSL/Cable Gateway router i.e.(Belkin F5D7230uk4 )
>1 X laptop with wireless built in
>1 X Pc with wireless card
>
>1 .Is it possible that the USB modem can be plugged into the DSL Gateway via
>Ethernet only and the internet connection shared to the laptop and PC?

Yes (done it myself). The router provides the 'sharing' and the modem
the connection type.
>
>2. How will the modem dial out?

It will normally have a configuration option to allow you to set the
account and password details. This mat not always be the case with
some of the simpler USB only ADSL modems but the dual (USB / Ehernet)
ones mostly do?
>
>3. Where does the modem get its power from ?

Hmm. For the USB ones then often the USB host, but for the dual type
then the ones I have seen come with a 'wall wart' type PSU?
>
>4. Am I correct in saying that these gateway routers are designed for Cable
>modems and DSL not ADSL?

They are 'designed' to have a loacal LAN side and a WAN side. What
happens on the WAN side *can* be of no consequence to the router as
long as it provides the minimum services (like access to a DHCP
server).
>
>5. Does anyone have this setup?

I don't, but have worked on a couple the same.
>
>
>Hope I have explained it well
>Any answers would be great..

The other replies you have had suggesting a combined ADSL modem /
switch / router / NAT / Firewall / WiFi interfaces are all good.

I have a Terayon cable modem > Dlink Di-704 router / 4 port 10/100
switch and a Netgear FS108 8 port 10/100 switch. This also connects to
a Netgear ME102 WiFi AP (I had it separate from the router for better
positioning).

I have 3 machines running Cat3 (I flood wired the house many years ago
<g>) and the odd laptop / test machine via WiFi.

All the best ..

T i m